Magick in Slimelight

[Silver_Dark]

Hi everyone,

I visited Slimelight for the first time on Saturday night and found it a very powerful place. The colors were so strong! Has anyone tried to tap into this power? Do they let you? I have a spell for this and would like to try on saturday, but will i be allowed? i'm flying back to Atlanta on Tuesday, so i won't have another chance.

Silver

[Sinmara]

hm you might want to bite into some glowsticks, for those are the only colours there... ok, the neonstuff as well ;)

(and who should prevent you from tapping into the power there?)

[fad]

Are you sure that's not 'Atlantis' you're flying back to??? I dunno if you've come across a calendar recently but the dark-ages are actually over, we have a thing called science nowadays and Magick spells have been kind of abandoned due to their 100%record of not working....ever.
Having said that, I don't see any harm in a bit of spell-casting providing you don't have to ravish any virgins, behead any goats or do anything that involves chalk, fire, blood or....well anything more intrusive than reading the latest Harry Potter novel really. I'll have to check with the owners though as apparently the building lies on the convergence of a number of ley lines and an old pagan burial ground so you might screw up the natural resonance of the....erm....karma!?

[Crash_Dark]

Are you sure that's not 'Atlantis' you're flying back to??? I dunno if you've come across a calendar recently but the dark-ages are actually over, we have a thing called science nowadays and Magick spells have been kind of abandoned due to their 100%record of not working....ever.


Hmmm, do I detect a note of scepticism there Fad? :lol:

[Sin-RazorAngel]

Are you sure that's not 'Atlantis' you're flying back to??? I dunno if you've come across a calendar recently but the dark-ages are actually over, we have a thing called science nowadays and Magick spells have been kind of abandoned due to their 100%record of not working....ever.
Having said that, I don't see any harm in a bit of spell-casting providing you don't have to ravish any virgins, behead any goats or do anything that involves chalk, fire, blood or....well anything more intrusive than reading the latest Harry Potter novel really. I'll have to check with the owners though as apparently the building lies on the convergence of a number of ley lines and an old pagan burial ground so you might screw up the natural resonance of the....erm....karma!?

VIRGINS WHERE WHERE??
MINE MINE

[fad]

"Hmmm, do I detect a note of scepticism there Fad? "
Less 'sceptic' than 'optic' I fear.

[Antagonist]

Let the poor child believe whatever the hell she wants. We have the choice to ignore her.
Note to Silver Dark: Sometimes religion is a very personal thing, and you open yourself up to criticism if you expect others to understand your ideas. Keep eating the happy stuff.

x

[fad]

Oh! Is it a girl??! In that case I take it all back, don't want to risk offence. It's just I thought it was a Wizard writing that, and I hate Wizards, always leaving magical buckets clogging the place up and stuff.
Annnnnd....'poor child', hmmm. Seems that could be interpreted as a tad patronising, unless you're at least 70 years old....and live in a cottage in the forest.
'We have the choice to ignore her'...I'd never DREAM of ignoring someone who can provide material like this!
"Sometimes religion is a very personal thing"....hang about! What's personal about it??? Either your god exists or it doesn't and in the case of anyone who believes in a god.... IT DOESN'T. Trees aren't personal are they, and they exist, I've seen one. Ducks, there's another thing that's not personal, and I've even fed one or two of those. God's and magical powers! Hmmm, bit trickier that one. Try substituting the word 'personal' for 'misguided' and I think you may be on to something.
And I have no idea how to respond to your final crude allusion to what I can only imagine is fellatio other than to say 'behave you naughty little minx you'

[fad]

Jeeezus, I didn't see that coming. Since writing that last post I've been turned in to a FROG!!
Yes, yes, I can hear some of you say 'how can I tell the difference'??? Well, I'm currently spawning.....

[Blink]

I think the only Magick there is of the Mushroom variety, or possibly the disco biscuit type.

[Flux]

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Now THAT'S magick! ;)

[Buddhist_Insect]

http://greatsiteschallenge.net/magick/pagetop.jpg

kinda like shit happens i guess....

[Alexander]

we have a thing called science nowadays and Magick spells have been kind of abandoned due to their 100%record of not working....ever.


Not tru! I've seen David Blaine and Derren Brown (DB being common initials for magicians) and both of them wee on your science from a great height!

[Silver_Dark]

I'm not sure how to react to this.

[Crash_Dark]

I'm not sure how to react to this.

With a pinch of salt, Silver_Dark (Hey, are we related?! LOL)

If you're into a faith like magic, you must be used to getting mixed opinions? That's what you just got.

Do your thing, what people think doesn't really matter - as long as it's unobtrusive, I'm sure no-one will care (and Fad's said as much, in his tongue-in-cheek way ;))

[Cyberkitten]

Normal rules apply for magick working in a public place.
ie. Don't scare the locals.

But yes it's allowed, and yes it's an amazingly powerful place.

[Cyberkitten]

And I've just realised that I've posted too late. Damn.

[fad]

Ribbit, ribbit.

[Crash_Dark]

Ribbit, ribbit.

LMAO, that'll teach you! ;)

[snoww_wwhite]

I'm not sure how to react to this.


take it like a man!

[snoww_wwhite]

Normal rules apply for magick working in a public place.
ie. Don't scare the locals.

But yes it's allowed, and yes it's an amazingly powerful place.


yeah cos of the rivets and the powernoise!

[Antagonist]

I think the only Magick there is of the Mushroom variety, or possibly the disco biscuit type.

Which is exactly what I meant by eating the happy stuff. Which of course Fad read as a reference to spunksucking. Tsk!

Yes, I do have religeous beliefs. Sort of believe in angels actually, and of various things to do with meditative states and parallel universes, but I still believe it's a personal thing. We're all a bit weird in our own way.

[fad]

" Sort of believe in angels actually"
HAAAAAH HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAH
HAAAAAH HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAH
HAAAAAH HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAH
HAAAAAH HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAH

[Cyberkitten]

Fad!

I would have thought someone as liberal and intelligent as you would appreciate the need for tolerence and acceptance of others especially within our own community.

Whatever happened to: "I remember when goths used to look out for each other, not fight amongst themselves- we've got enough antagonism from the rest of society not to attack our own kind?"
Or don't you remember saying that?

Y'know looking down upon or mocking people for their spiritual or relgous beliefs isn't so far from the facism you're so critical of.

But far be it for me to advise you, after all, anything anyone my sort of age says is automatically unrespectable rubbish isn't it.

[fad]

"anything anyone my sort of age says is automatically unrespectable rubbish isn't it."
Absolutely! But if I'm ever looking for advice on what flavour of 'lowwy-pwop' is big in the school yard this week or how to get those irritating staples out of Justin Timberlake's navel be sure someone of your age will be my first port of call.
And on another serious note, while people are dicking around figuring out the best way to cast a glamour over that boy they fancy or the correct way to swing an incense burner they seem to miss out on the basic attributes of being a decent human being. Religion is an excuse for insecure individuals to be controlled by power-hungry institutions on the promise of a non-existent reward system. This magic/mysticism drivel is the same thing.
The last time I had the misfortune to hear about the 'tappable energy' in the club it was from an individual who turned out to be utterly lacking any moral code or shred of decency whatsoever. If someone thinks there's a shortcut to a happy existence through some unprovable spell or prayer it avoids them having to treat others in a civilised way or take responsibility for their own actions. (Does that boy not like me because I cast the wrong spell or is it because I'm a complete cunt?? Must be the spell, I'll try a different one.) It's all a distraction. It's an emotional crutch for those who also claim that only 'religion' has the insight to create a moral frame-work by which to live. Fuck your religions, and make no mistake, this is just another made-up belief system identical to all the others at the very end. It was invented to control you. Liberate yourselves and concentrate on what's really going on in your head. That's where your gods and magick exist.

Oh, and of course Hitler was big in to his black-magic rituals, same reasoning, he saw it as a short-cut to power, free of any moral obligation to decent human behaviour. Facism and mysticism (think Wagner) aren't an awful long way apart.

And I don't look down on people, I look down upon sheep.

[fad]

PS
""I remember when goths used to look out for each other, not fight amongst themselves- we've got enough antagonism from the rest of society not to attack our own kind?""
Bloody didn't you know. It's always been just one big hot-bed of back-stabbing and betrayal. The guy you've known to be friendly for ten years will stab you in the back for just one whiff of your girl-friend's knickers when it comes down to it. I'll look out for other Goths/Weirdos where I can but I wouldn't expect them to piss on me if I was on fire....but then maybe that's cos I'm utterly lacking in 'faith'.

[gothicbikerbabe]

*reads posts*.........*reads posts again*.........*eyes widen*....

that is the most sense ive heard in a long time. why cant i come up wiv a great speech like that wen i need 2?

[Cyberkitten]

SILVER_DARK-

You have a p/m.

FAD-

I wasn't sure who was going to do it first, I think you beat me on a technicality, but inevitably one of us was going to play the Hitler card, Argumentum ad Nazium.

This form of guilt by assosiation criticizes an argument by linking it in some way to Hitler or Nazism.

Naturally no one wants to be associated with Nazism because it has been so thoroughly discredited in both theory and practice. This argument is however completely and logically fallacious: Yes; Hitler believed in magic/spirituality, he was also a vegetarian. This doesn't discredit vegetarianism or magic any more than the fact that he didn't smoke discredits not smoking.


My argument with you is not whether religion is right or wrong, in fact I agree that blind faith and extreme zealotry are responsible some of the most harmful/damaging things we as humans do to each other. Instead I put it to you that evangelism and zealotry are wrong.

And I put it to you that by presenting such a hostile attitude to religious/spiritual people and so fervantly preaching your belief in atheism you yourself are guilty of blind faith and evangelical zealotry. Isn't the hypocrisy obvious? My own personal views aside, no one can affirmatively prove anything. The existance of a supreme being/supernatural power is no more provable for a religious person than the non-existance of god is provable for an atheist.

If it was actually provable either way, it would be big news by now. News that would change the world permenantly.

So, as we don't know for certain let's not aggressively shove our beliefs down each other's throats. This is not a right/wrong issue.

Here Fad, you are judging/stereotyping a whole and populous group (believers of all denominations) by the actions of a few. It's equivalent to saying that "Islam is a lie and a delusion" based on the events of September 11th, 2001 only of course it's not as politically sensitive.

You don't know Silver_Dark, so I don't know how you can decide whether or not they're a decent human being based on a couple of words on a bulletin board. Your mockery of Antagonist's beliefs is skating very close to breaching the terms and conditions of these boards.

I think if you were anyone else, I'd report you to a moderator, but we're both allegedly mods here and resonsible for maintaining this community I think this is unacceptable.

Edited: for spelling.

[TZAR]

PS
""I remember when goths used to look out for each other, not fight amongst themselves- we've got enough antagonism from the rest of society not to attack our own kind?""
Bloody didn't you know. It's always been just one big hot-bed of back-stabbing and betrayal. The guy you've known to be friendly for ten years will stab you in the back for just one whiff of your girl-friend's knickers when it comes down to it. I'll look out for other Goths/Weirdos where I can but I wouldn't expect them to piss on me if I was on fire....but then maybe that's cos I'm utterly lacking in 'faith'.no it`s experience not lack of faith. let me agree with Fad.you`ll all say the same thing in years to come......live and learn!!!!

[TZAR]

PS
""I remember when goths used to look out for each other, not fight amongst themselves- we've got enough antagonism from the rest of society not to attack our own kind?""
Bloody didn't you know. It's always been just one big hot-bed of back-stabbing and betrayal. The guy you've known to be friendly for ten years will stab you in the back for just one whiff of your girl-friend's knickers when it comes down to it. I'll look out for other Goths/Weirdos where I can but I wouldn't expect them to piss on me if I was on fire....but then maybe that's cos I'm utterly lacking in 'faith'.no it`s experience not lack of faith. let me agree with Fad.you`ll all say the same thing in years to come......live and learn!!!!

[Eternal-Darkness]

Its true as I have many magic cards in my Yu-Gi-Oh! deck so it is real! Im gonna go to a graveyard later and use my 'premature burial' card to bring back a monster from the grave, oh but wait, i really dont fancy giving up those 800 life points... Fuck it, im going with fad on this one...

[fad]

"Argumentum ad Nazium"

Brilliant!!!! For that quote alone I'll let you live a little longer, or to put it another way....'I like you, I'm going to kill you last' .
10 Slime points to the first reader to correctly identify that misquote!!!

'.......and resonsible for maintaining this community I think this is unacceptable.' I am appalled and shocked by the abysmal lack of punctuation in that sentence. If there was a moderator on this site I'd report you for that un-patriotic attack on the English language!!!

[Eternal-Darkness]

its from commando! go arnie go! what do i win?

[fad]

Shit, the prize was 10 points to be redeemed on a meal for two...with me!!! But I have the unpleasant suspicion that you're a bloke aren't you??? This could get messy.

[Eternal-Darkness]

Ewwwwww, forget that shit then. i'll let some young goth girl win the prize and you can take her out instead... Im full of kindness today, or is it just the thought of eating dinner with fad... 8O

[untermensch]

Fad. You're the best evar!

[fad]

I try to be the best Fad I can be! :)

" forget that shit then. i'll let some young goth girl win the prize and you can take her out instead"

....and how exactly is that going to work then? You've just written the answer above!! And when, oh when, will you people learn, Goths girls HATE me....now you've given the answer they can all deliberately get it wrong....or just not bother to respond at all which is probably the more likely option.

What was this thread supposed to be about again??
Oh yeah, 'abra-cadabra, make Goth girls like Fad'...hope that works!

[Cyberkitten]

.......and resonsible for maintaining this community I think this is unacceptable.' I am appalled and shocked by the abysmal lack of punctuation in that sentence. If there was a moderator on this site I'd report you for that un-patriotic attack on the English language!!!

"I feel bewilderment bordering on alarm" that all logical and rational arguments defeated you embark upon a character assasination based on what... on my punctuation and grammar.

I think this matter has now been resolved.

[fad]

"I feel bewilderment bordering on alarm"

Don't worry about it, probably just the first symptoms of menstruation kicking in.

What? You thought I couldn't go lower!???

[Eternal-Darkness]

Ohhhhhh well fuck you then fad, thats the last time i try and help you out with getting a date for you. :P:P:P Ungratfull cunt....:P:P:P I'll take her out then... if there ever is one... :cry:

[snoww_wwhite]

Ohhhhhh well fuck you then fad, thats the last time i try and help you out with getting a date for you. :P:P:P Ungratfull cunt....:P:P:P I'll take her out then... if there ever is one... :cry:

oi, leave Fad alone or else!!!!

we all need Fad's fatherly love and care and girlfriends will only distract him from that.... ;)

[Eternal-Darkness]

Ohhhhhh well fuck you then fad, thats the last time i try and help you out with getting a date for you. :P:P:P Ungratfull cunt....:P:P:P I'll take her out then... if there ever is one... :cry:

oi, leave Fad alone or else!!!!

we all need Fad's fatherly love and care and girlfriends will only distract him from that.... ;)


Or else what? you can tell me next time I see you in the club :evil: :lol:

[gothicbikerbabe]

I try to be the best Fad I can be! :)

" forget that shit then. i'll let some young goth girl win the prize and you can take her out instead"

....and how exactly is that going to work then? You've just written the answer above!! And when, oh when, will you people learn, Goths girls HATE me....now you've given the answer they can all deliberately get it wrong....or just not bother to respond at all which is probably the more likely option.

What was this thread supposed to be about again??
Oh yeah, 'abra-cadabra, make Goth girls like Fad'...hope that works!


im a goth girl. i dont hate u. i dont kno u either but thats not the point.....

[Blink]

The existance of a supreme being/supernatural power is no more provable for a religious person than the non-existance of god is provable for an atheist.

If it was actually provable either way, it would be big news by now. News that would change the world permenantly.

Just to go all science/philisophical on you, you can't prove absence.

There is no way that you can prove that Dragons don't exist, or Unicorns, or Vampires, we just accept it as years of human experience has taught us this. the same way that you can't prove that gravity will carry on working tomorrow, you just accept it based on experience.

Actually, having said that, half of you lot probably still believe in vampires, Dragons, and Unicorns.

Bloody Goths

:roll:

[untermensch]

Ahh, therein lies the beauty of weighing up years and years of the combined experience of billions of people. Philosophically, you can't prove that gravity *won't* pack its bags and cease all operations tomorrow, but experience and common sense tell you that you'd have to be stupid to jump out of a 10 storey high window just to give yourself the infinitely improbably chance of proving that gravity might indeed be partial to a day off.

I think this is what Fad's getting at. You'd have to be stu^W severely challenged in the common sense department to truly believe certain things. Some people have outlandish beliefs simply because they like to dream, or enjoy wishful thinking - everybody has a crutch or three. I am not the sort of person to challenge anyone on these things *unless* they make a point of asserting their misguided thinking upon others.

I make a point of tolerating almost any human characteristic apart from the ones which are blatently harming others - and stupidity. In my eyes, stupidity is an attitude - not a state of ignorance or a lack of mental capability.

Going around in public asking about tapping into the Magickal energy sources of a club is about the same as going around explaining to people how you can fly. Expect that someone will laugh at you, and realise that it's because they have every right to, whether you think it tactless or not.

[La_Mort]

Ohhhhhh well fuck you then fad, thats the last time i try and help you out with getting a date for you. :P:P:P Ungratfull cunt....:P:P:P I'll take her out then... if there ever is one... :cry:

oi, leave Fad alone or else!!!!

we all need Fad's fatherly love and care and girlfriends will only distract him from that.... ;)


Or else what? you can tell me next time I see you in the club :evil: :lol:

My son,

The Velvet One shall address you on this matter.

[jeff_the_neff]

Ohhhhhh well fuck you then fad, thats the last time i try and help you out with getting a date for you. :P:P:P Ungratfull cunt....:P:P:P I'll take her out then... if there ever is one... :cry:

oi, leave Fad alone or else!!!!

we all need Fad's fatherly love and care and girlfriends will only distract him from that.... ;)


Or else what? you can tell me next time I see you in the club :evil: :lol:

My son,

The Velvet One shall address you on this matter.

Yes? Hello,
Did someone mention my name?
I may address someone, as any nubile young lady may address me, shortly after which, I may be undressing them.
It's the velvet, they are powerless to resist.

[Dave]

Ahh, therein lies the beauty of weighing up years and years of the combined experience of billions of people.

This is it exactly.

I believe in things which can be demonstrated to me, or reasonable extrapolations of this. I can see why people would want to believe in magic - it'd be great. But I have absolutely no reason to believe in it.

To be quite honest, I really cannot understand people who do. It is as Fad says, a psychological crutch. It's not going to solve your problems, and might make them worse.

Having said that, I'm not going to slag off "believers". I just genuinely feel a bit sorry for them.

[K2KILLER]

I generally believe in chips brown sauce and two slices of buttered bread, this alchemic combination is truly magic to me.

[untermensch]

I generally believe in chips brown sauce and two slices of buttered bread, this alchemic combination is truly magic to me.

However, there is no spoon.

[SP]

I generally believe in chips brown sauce and two slices of buttered bread, this alchemic combination is truly magic to me.

Hey K2 ... Nice to have you "on board". Wicked looking avatar!!

Hope you're feeling better!! :wink:

[Crash_Dark]

I generally believe in chips brown sauce and two slices of buttered bread, this alchemic combination is truly magic to me.

Oh, now there's something worth believing in! ;) I thought the cult had died out in the great Salt & Vinegar War of the 1440s.

Good to have you around K2. As SP said, hope you're on the mend.

[La_Mort]

Yes? Hello,
Did someone mention my name?
I may address someone, as any nubile young lady may address me, shortly after which, I may be undressing them.
It's the velvet, they are powerless to resist. Heed the Velvet one, for he is of great power & influence!

[Skull_Fucker]

I have a spell for this and would like to try on saturday, but will i be allowed?.
Not whilst My Boots Connecting with your arse.
I got your spell right here you M - U - P - P - E - T - T!

[crazy_fairy]

science of course is just another philosophy, it seems to work and explain things as did religion when it was founded. As far as they could see the origins and explanations of there religions worked ,as they, as we would say "didnt know the whole truth." We ofcourse believe in science, this has only been around since around the late early 17-18 century. Christianity was believed to be true for much longer than this and so was paganism and any other religion, eventually these were proved as untrue by the philosophy and theories of science. It is inevitable that another philosophy that explains everthing in a more clear way and seems to work with the modern world will also wipe out science! As did science with religion. My piont is know one really knows the truth and i dont claim to know it either i believe that we really know nothing!

[gooner]

science has overtaken religions in many countries for one simple fact. it sucessfully predicts, not just explains. Other than that it is a philiosophy like any other. it even has it's own trinity the proton, electron and neutron.

Unlike many other religions it has gained acceptance through its willingness - even demand - to be challenged and disproved, thus has the fount of 'knowledge' been enriched and built upon. it is democratised in that no one is barred from knowing anything - the inner truths are not guarded by a secret cabal as they are in many religions.

Nonetheless much of what we hold to be fact is wrong and will in the future be disproved. example - 40 years ago the thought that humans emitted and were receptive to consiously undetectable pheromones would have been seen as ridiculous now it is accpted fact. I persoanlly am a beleiver in science, but remain a sceptic i doubt i am alone in that ive witnessed things that (as a science graduate) I cannot explain.

[snoww_wwhite]

to believe is to assume, to be not certain
knowledge combats belief - science is knowledge

[snoww_wwhite]

Ohhhhhh well fuck you then fad, thats the last time i try and help you out with getting a date for you. :P:P:P Ungratfull cunt....:P:P:P I'll take her out then... if there ever is one... :cry:

oi, leave Fad alone or else!!!!

we all need Fad's fatherly love and care and girlfriends will only distract him from that.... ;)


Or else what? you can tell me next time I see you in the club :evil: :lol:


i shall do the utterly unspeakable to you and stomp uberteutonically at you...


ph34r me :P

[Crash_Dark]

Hmmm, science, to me, is 'knowledge' based upon results passing some thresh-hold which makes them acceptable as 'fact', and the inability of peers to come up with an alternative or more plausible/likely view (or disproof).

As far as I'm aware, there is little (if anything) that we actually KNOW beyond all shadow of a doubt. So, therefore, even science requires an element of faith.

[SP]

Ohhhhhh well fuck you then fad, thats the last time i try and help you out with getting a date for you. :P:P:P Ungratfull cunt....:P:P:P I'll take her out then... if there ever is one... :cry:

oi, leave Fad alone or else!!!!

we all need Fad's fatherly love and care and girlfriends will only distract him from that.... ;)


Or else what? you can tell me next time I see you in the club :evil: :lol:


i shall do the utterly unspeakable to you and stomp uberteutonically at you...


ph34r me :P

He he! ... Snowwy, do you know who Eternal-Darkness is? ... I don't think this person will be fearing you too much! :wink:

[snoww_wwhite]

Ohhhhhh well fuck you then fad, thats the last time i try and help you out with getting a date for you. :P:P:P Ungratfull cunt....:P:P:P I'll take her out then... if there ever is one... :cry:

oi, leave Fad alone or else!!!!

we all need Fad's fatherly love and care and girlfriends will only distract him from that.... ;)


Or else what? you can tell me next time I see you in the club :evil: :lol:


i shall do the utterly unspeakable to you and stomp uberteutonically at you...


ph34r me :P

He he! ... Snowwy, do you know who Eternal-Darkness is? ... I don't think this person will be fearing you too much! :wink:

nope, no idea but my teutonic boot stomping action combined with my sulk lips cracked even the hardest so far...

:D

[untermensch]

We ofcourse believe in science, this has only been around since around the late early 17-18 century!

You would do well to read about the ancient Greek philosophers, and people like Archimedes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes) who were scientists hundreds of years B.C. Science is merely a means of successfully predicting the behaviour and granting understanding of the things around us, some of which we observe directly, and others of which we observe through consequence. Even completely invisible and counter-intuitive things (like quantum mechanics) are successfully predicted and described more and more accurately through ever developing theories. There is no faith involved apart from the realisation that the theory that is currently understood is so far the most accurate.

Fuck all this religion, magick, and other bullshit, and fuck anybody that compares science to this stupidity. Wake up. Try cursing someone with death while they rely on the predictability of the bullet whose trajectory has been accurately predicted by the theories and laws which science has understood to be heading directly towards your head.</rant>[/url]

[crazy_fairy]

To be honest i completely made that up and tried to look intelligient. I thought it sounded good and made up some liitle theory. When i said 17-18th century i meant modern scince. (scientific revolution etc)