DJ music selection on saturday 12th Feb

[snoww_wwhite]

hello,

it was overall not a bad night, though i was seriously disappointed that Nick(?) chose to play futurepop on the top floor!!!!!

to be honest, i am not a fan of Pete's occasional trips into ibiza and a lot of the techno played up there bores me after a while but futurepoop is an insult i felt.

i am ever so sorry about my choice of words to him but i felt like there was no escape from the mopey trance at some stage.

this leaves me a bit confused as to who he was and why he chose that music? also what music can i safely expect on the top floor? does futurepop fit into the possible choice and why not play more industrial?

[pamdora2000]

Ok...

Futurepop....

So that is the stuff name that I should definitely avoid when entering a music shop, then...

Futurepop... What the?? 8O :?

Thanks for the info, Snoww-Wwhite.

Yeah, I think Francesca was brilliant, I missed quite a bit of Pete but then he is one of my favs and he played Ministry for me. Me cuddles Pete...!! :wink: :wink: :wink:

And what can I say for Mak,... He could not end better...

Well, I will then have posted about loos, love and music. Three different flavours and odours. How poetic...

[snoww_wwhite]

Ok...

Futurepop....

So that is the stuff name that I should definitely avoid when entering a music shop, then...

Futurepop... What the?? 8O :?

Thanks for the info, Snoww-Wwhite.

Yeah, I think Francesca was brilliant, I missed quite a bit of Pete but then he is one of my favs and he played Ministry for me. Me cuddles Pete...!! :wink: :wink: :wink:

And what can I say for Mak,... He could not end better...

Well, I will then have posted about loos, love and music. Three different flavours and odours. How poetic...

yeah by the time Mak came on i was too tired and had cooled down already, which meant that the blisters on my feet started to hurt like hell ... so there was no more dancing, just the feeling of having missed something good

[pamdora2000]

yeah by the time Mak came on i was too tired and had cooled down already, which meant that the blisters on my feet started to hurt like hell ... so there was no more dancing, just the feeling of having missed something good

Saw you sitting down...

No matter what has happened during the night, if I still am at Slime for the last set(nearly always), I have to dance to it, specially if it is one like last night...

Hope those blister heal quickly. Apply pure Lavender oil on them. Will work...

[snoww_wwhite]

Saw you sitting down...

No matter what has happened during the night, if I still am at Slime for the last set(nearly always), I have to dance to it, specially if it is one like last night...

Hope those blister heal quickly. Apply pure Lavender oil on them. Will work...

ah, no worries my feet go through this every week, iam having fun destroying them... though iam goign to put thicker plasters on in the future i think :D

[panic]

hello,

it was overall not a bad night, though i was seriously disappointed that Nick(?) chose to play futurepop on the top floor!!!!!

to be honest, i am not a fan of Pete's occasional trips into ibiza and a lot of the techno played up there bores me after a while but futurepoop is an insult i felt.

i am ever so sorry about my choice of words to him but i felt like there was no escape from the mopey trance at some stage.

this leaves me a bit confused as to who he was and why he chose that music? also what music can i safely expect on the top floor? does futurepop fit into the possible choice and why not play more industrial?


hey snowy, thanks for your kind words. as i am that 'nick' in question i thought you'd like to have a look at my 'future pop / trance' playlist:

oxia - reflexion
telepopmusic - smile
beyer & lenk ft. tiga - ananda
depeche mode - something to do [black strobe]
kraftwerk - aerodynamic [gopher]
mysterymen - electromode
kiko - italomatic [kiko & the hacker mix]
alessandro f - the wiseguys
bangkok impact - junge dame [b.i. mix]
the hacker - radiation
hong kong counterfeit - metal disco
fisherspooner - just let go [remix]
skinny puppy - far too frail
front 242 - never stop
laibach - opus dei
covenant - figurehead
i.o.c. - repeat it
apb - eclipse
this morn' omina - one eyed man
klinik - moving hands [d-foundation mix]
hypnoskull - effective mind mech.
imminent starvation - tentack one

you might want to get some of this, as you like powernoise so much 8)

also, if you want to suggest to a dj what music he/she 'should' play, 'why are you playing this? what is your name?' will not get you far.

ps. i'm preparing a goa / metal set for my next slimelight excursion

>

[snoww_wwhite]

hey snowy, thanks for your kind words. as i am that 'nick' in question i thought you'd like to have a look at my 'future pop / trance' playlist:

oxia - reflexion
telepopmusic - smile
beyer & lenk ft. tiga - ananda
depeche mode - something to do [black strobe]
kraftwerk - aerodynamic [gopher]
mysterymen - electromode
kiko - italomatic [kiko & the hacker mix]
alessandro f - the wiseguys
bangkok impact - junge dame [b.i. mix]
the hacker - radiation
hong kong counterfeit - metal disco
fisherspooner - just let go [remix]
skinny puppy - far too frail
front 242 - never stop
laibach - opus dei
covenant - figurehead
i.o.c. - repeat it
apb - eclipse
this morn' omina - one eyed man
klinik - moving hands [d-foundation mix]
hypnoskull - effective mind mech.
imminent starvation - tentack one

you might want to get some of this, as you like powernoise so much 8)

also, if you want to suggest to a dj what music he/she 'should' play, 'why are you playing this? what is your name?' will not get you far.

ps. i'm preparing a goa / metal set for my next slimelight excursion

>

not sure how the management feels but if you say that future pop band #1 would have anything to do with powernoise, industrial or techno and does not belong onto the lower floor then i must be obviously totally mistaken.
goa music belongs into townie clubs and will only atrract more townies who then go on and give people like me or goths grief, not a good idea. metal clubs are plenty about usually a provincial thing, as was your set.
i have got nothing kind to say about it and you played this morn omnia etc well after i had complained about the choice of music.

you are also forgetting that i was one of the two or three that kept dancing when you otherwise cleared the floor entirely, so maybe a thank you would be nice. i asked you to play more suitable music but you did not seem to understand what i was saying, i did not say you could not play that stuff, i said i would expect it on the lower floor, which is its place.


btw. this morn omnia - one eyed man, is about the most overplayed track in the world of noise.... shame to reduce a good band to one song. i can remember how we danced to it last year oh yes and it was played twice on NYE on the lower floor as its already that established.

to be honest the prospect of you coming back with the promise to play goa and metal shows a clear lack of respect for the people who are passionate about extreme industrial. :(


i am sad about that

[snoww_wwhite]

btw mopey trance = future pop = covenant + Apoptygma Berzerk
as opposed to townie trance, which is off course uplifting.

what happened to the Ravelab - Push VNV Nation remix? i remember even singing along to it cos i was so bored.

[snoww_wwhite]

one more for the record:

i came up to you once and asked politely if you could play a bit more harder stuff... i did not say what, i did not say how and i certainly did not say anything but thank you.

then you played covenant and APB as a response...

second time, as a response to no change, i came up and asked you if you were joking / taking the piss, to which you nodded, so i asked you what your name was.

call me old fashioned but i do like to know who it is who takes the mickey.

also i was encouraged by slimelight staff to write about my opinion on here, so i have done.

btw no need to get patronising about noise, i am well aware that i have a broad knowledge of noise compared to many people even on the decks.

[Rivetmike]

oxia - reflexion
telepopmusic - smile
beyer & lenk ft. tiga - ananda
depeche mode - something to do [black strobe]
kraftwerk - aerodynamic [gopher]
mysterymen - electromode
kiko - italomatic [kiko & the hacker mix]
alessandro f - the wiseguys
bangkok impact - junge dame [b.i. mix]
the hacker - radiation
hong kong counterfeit - metal disco
fisherspooner - just let go [remix]
skinny puppy - far too frail
front 242 - never stop
laibach - opus dei
covenant - figurehead
i.o.c. - repeat it
apb - eclipse
this morn' omina - one eyed man
klinik - moving hands [d-foundation mix]
hypnoskull - effective mind mech.
imminent starvation - tentack one


Looks like mostly electroclash stuff to me.

Rivetmike

[Skylizard]

oxia - reflexion
telepopmusic - smile
beyer & lenk ft. tiga - ananda
depeche mode - something to do [black strobe]
kraftwerk - aerodynamic [gopher]
mysterymen - electromode
kiko - italomatic [kiko & the hacker mix]
alessandro f - the wiseguys
bangkok impact - junge dame [b.i. mix]
the hacker - radiation
hong kong counterfeit - metal disco
fisherspooner - just let go [remix]
skinny puppy - far too frail
front 242 - never stop
laibach - opus dei
covenant - figurehead
i.o.c. - repeat it
apb - eclipse
this morn' omina - one eyed man
klinik - moving hands [d-foundation mix]
hypnoskull - effective mind mech.
imminent starvation - tentack one


Looks like mostly electroclash stuff to me.

Rivetmike

Spliting hairs hey Mike :lol:

[Skylizard]

hello,

it was overall not a bad night, though i was seriously disappointed that Nick(?) chose to play futurepop on the top floor!!!!!

to be honest, i am not a fan of Pete's occasional trips into ibiza and a lot of the techno played up there bores me after a while but futurepoop is an insult i felt.

i am ever so sorry about my choice of words to him but i felt like there was no escape from the mopey trance at some stage.

this leaves me a bit confused as to who he was and why he chose that music? also what music can i safely expect on the top floor? does futurepop fit into the possible choice and why not play more industrial?

Think you'll just have to except that this is the new trend for Slimelight, you know this has been talked about to death, but unless we are the DJ I don't see it changing, so as the paying customer we either accept it or we don't, my case I don't so don't go that often. I would rather be at home doing something else than be at Slimes totally pissed off becasue a DJ (not singling anyone out here Nick, there are others) chooses to play music that is much more suited for the average joe (townie ) club, that baering in mind Slimes is an alternative club.
I also agree with the single track one hit wonders for a DJ playlist, with bands making so much music and exceptionally good music why reduce them to a single track (okay do also have the one hit wonders but they are few in the alternative scene----alternative used in the broad sense).
I remember the days when DJs used to broaden peoples minds with new music and introduce those who didn't know much about the scene, to it , and not reduce them to mindless repeated week in week out playlists, Rex springs to mind here.

Just my 2 cents,

[Sinmara]

I liked the music on the main floor yesterday, and I even danced once on the industrial floor - never happened before!!

and there was also played quite a lot new stuff on the main floor, though I think there could be more variety on the goth rock side. But generally I thought it was good.

[snoww_wwhite]

I liked the music on the main floor yesterday, and I even danced once on the industrial floor - never happened before!!

and there was also played quite a lot new stuff on the main floor, though I think there could be more variety on the goth rock side. But generally I thought it was good.

yes, unfortunately at some stage during the night it was townie heaven there.... no matter how they try to dress up, their dance style and the style of clothing they wear still screams townie to you... well at least they were all nice townies last saturday, got to be mentioned, not got bothered at all for a nice change :D

[panic]

for what is worth:

i always play what i want (emphasis on I), or i'd be playing prodigy/vnvnation all night long. that were the requests during the klinik track i played. i also try to play about 20-30% new stuff, to 'broaden people's minds'. however, generally people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests.

i never got involved in 'defending' what i play and i'm not writing this in my defence. i new i was going to regret getting involved into this conversation.

a suggestion: someone should start a forum where people voice their requests. i can only imagine what that would look like...

[Sinmara]

I liked the music on the main floor yesterday, and I even danced once on the industrial floor - never happened before!!

and there was also played quite a lot new stuff on the main floor, though I think there could be more variety on the goth rock side. But generally I thought it was good.

yes, unfortunately at some stage during the night it was townie heaven there.... no matter how they try to dress up, their dance style and the style of clothing they wear still screams townie to you... well at least they were all nice townies last saturday, got to be mentioned, not got bothered at all for a nice change :D

ahem... I have no idea what 'townie' means! do you mean those Ravers, disguised as goths?

[pamdora2000]

hello,

it was overall not a bad night, though i was seriously disappointed that Nick(?) chose to play futurepop on the top floor!!!!!

to be honest, i am not a fan of Pete's occasional trips into ibiza and a lot of the techno played up there bores me after a while but futurepoop is an insult i felt.

i am ever so sorry about my choice of words to him but i felt like there was no escape from the mopey trance at some stage.

this leaves me a bit confused as to who he was and why he chose that music? also what music can i safely expect on the top floor? does futurepop fit into the possible choice and why not play more industrial?

Think you'll just have to except that this is the new trend for Slimelight, you know this has been talked about to death, but unless we are the DJ I don't see it changing, so as the paying customer we either accept it or we don't, my case I don't so don't go that often. I would rather be at home doing something else than be at Slimes totally pissed off becasue a DJ (not singling anyone out here Nick, there are others) chooses to play music that is much more suited for the average joe (townie ) club, that baering in mind Slimes is an alternative club.

New trend for Slimelight??? 8O
I would not call one(or maybe two) occasional guest Slimelight DJ the new trend for Slimelight... But it is deeply scary how often electroclashit-futurepop is heard on the upper floor by only one(or maybe two) DJ.

What I find funny is that in order to play some industrial/noise what these DJs select are really overplayed tunes, but nothing new to us... And that is taking the piss. Not for us on the dancefloor, but for the other DJs!! An example: on saturday I was talking(yeah, I was-!!!!-or maybe should I say listening??) with a lil'bunch of people and at some point we had to go to the dancefloor because we thought the electroshit set had ended as we could hear some familiar tunes. We even had bets to try and guess who was DJing without looking at the deck. Now our faces when we finally looked were pretty funny. It was not Mak as we(nearly) all thought... :roll:

Now if you are a DJ and you really really want to take the piss in a way we all have a laugh, play B52, Jane's Addiction or keep listening to other DJs sets and every now and then you will find what I am talking about. 8)

BTW electroclashit gets on my f***ing nerves cos you can not bloody repeat 80's at all: 80's happened and were unique. You can not "redo" it only relisten to it!! :x

Electroclashit is drop dead dull!!

[Skylizard]

for what is worth:

i always play what i want (emphasis on I), or i'd be playing prodigy/vnvnation all night long. that were the requests during the klinik track i played. i also try to play about 20-30% new stuff, to 'broaden people's minds'. however, generally people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests.

i never got involved in 'defending' what i play and i'm not writing this in my defence. i new i was going to regret getting involved into this conversation.

a suggestion: someone should start a forum where people voice their requests. i can only imagine what that would look like...

Don't regret it, people voicing their opinions is always good, we are still friends after we have fought and and bitch slapped each other. I, like others i'm sure, accept that there is no pleasing everyone, but when we don't like something you, fellow DJs and 1 or 2 Slimelight staff will definitely know about it. :lol:
So I can take it you won't be playing anymore "townie ibiza" stuff from now on........ excllent thanks.... :wink:

[Rivetmike]

Looks like mostly electroclash stuff to me.

Rivetmike

Spliting hairs hey Mike :lol:[/quote]

Well,as Blink hadn't yet said it ;)

Rivetmike

[Skylizard]

I liked the music on the main floor yesterday, and I even danced once on the industrial floor - never happened before!!

and there was also played quite a lot new stuff on the main floor, though I think there could be more variety on the goth rock side. But generally I thought it was good.

yes, unfortunately at some stage during the night it was townie heaven there.... no matter how they try to dress up, their dance style and the style of clothing they wear still screams townie to you... well at least they were all nice townies last saturday, got to be mentioned, not got bothered at all for a nice change :D

ahem... I have no idea what 'townie' means! do you mean those Ravers, disguised as goths?

Yes as well as the goth wannabies....... I call the Gummy Goths

[Skylizard]

hello,

it was overall not a bad night, though i was seriously disappointed that Nick(?) chose to play futurepop on the top floor!!!!!

to be honest, i am not a fan of Pete's occasional trips into ibiza and a lot of the techno played up there bores me after a while but futurepoop is an insult i felt.

i am ever so sorry about my choice of words to him but i felt like there was no escape from the mopey trance at some stage.

this leaves me a bit confused as to who he was and why he chose that music? also what music can i safely expect on the top floor? does futurepop fit into the possible choice and why not play more industrial?

Think you'll just have to except that this is the new trend for Slimelight, you know this has been talked about to death, but unless we are the DJ I don't see it changing, so as the paying customer we either accept it or we don't, my case I don't so don't go that often. I would rather be at home doing something else than be at Slimes totally pissed off becasue a DJ (not singling anyone out here Nick, there are others) chooses to play music that is much more suited for the average joe (townie ) club, that baering in mind Slimes is an alternative club.

New trend for Slimelight??? 8O
I would not call one(or maybe two) occasional guest Slimelight DJ the new trend for Slimelight... But it is deeply scary how often electroclashit-futurepop is heard on the upper floor by only one(or maybe two) DJ.

What I find funny is that in order to play some industrial/noise what these DJs select are really overplayed tunes, but nothing new to us... And that is taking the piss. Not for us on the dancefloor, but for the other DJs!! An example: on saturday I was talking(yeah, I was-!!!!-or maybe should I say listening??) with a lil'bunch of people and at some point we had to go to the dancefloor because we thought the electroshit set had ended as we could hear some familiar tunes. We even had bets to try and guess who was DJing without looking at the deck. Now our faces when we finally looked were pretty funny. It was not Mak as we(nearly) all thought... :roll:

Now if you are a DJ and you really really want to take the piss in a way we all have a laugh, play B52, Jane's Addiction or keep listening to other DJs sets and every now and then you will find what I am talking about. 8)

BTW electroclashit gets on my f***ing nerves cos you can not bloody repeat 80's at all: 80's happened and were unique. You can not "redo" it only relisten to it!! :x

Electroclashit is drop dead dull!!

This has been going on for sometime now so it's more of a trend than a one off...... :lol:

[snoww_wwhite]

for what is worth:

i always play what i want (emphasis on I), or i'd be playing prodigy/vnvnation all night long. that were the requests during the klinik track i played. i also try to play about 20-30% new stuff, to 'broaden people's minds'. however, generally people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests.

i never got involved in 'defending' what i play and i'm not writing this in my defence. i new i was going to regret getting involved into this conversation.

a suggestion: someone should start a forum where people voice their requests. i can only imagine what that would look like...


i think that speaks for itself. vnv nation well, you played some of the music of that ilk, why not play more? which is what i mean by lower floor music, your set would have gone down very well there. also i did not say it was a bad set per se, though it was an unsuitable set for the top floor in my opinion as people like me expect harder music than most of the tracks that you played.

to be honest, i know of people coming from all over europe and further even to slimelight cos it has gained a reputation for the noise that plays there, i would be a bit cheesed off if i was them, if a DJ played one eyed man at me. hypnoskull "electronic music means war to us" was released in 2001, TMO - "seven years of famine" was released in 2002, Imminent Starvation "nord" was released in 1999 all three are with Ant Zen ... so hardly the broaden your mind approach there.

in fact i am starting to wonder if TMO was in fact the newest track of the lot in your set.

[pamdora2000]

hello,

it was overall not a bad night, though i was seriously disappointed that Nick(?) chose to play futurepop on the top floor!!!!!

to be honest, i am not a fan of Pete's occasional trips into ibiza and a lot of the techno played up there bores me after a while but futurepoop is an insult i felt.

i am ever so sorry about my choice of words to him but i felt like there was no escape from the mopey trance at some stage.

this leaves me a bit confused as to who he was and why he chose that music? also what music can i safely expect on the top floor? does futurepop fit into the possible choice and why not play more industrial?

Think you'll just have to except that this is the new trend for Slimelight, you know this has been talked about to death, but unless we are the DJ I don't see it changing, so as the paying customer we either accept it or we don't, my case I don't so don't go that often. I would rather be at home doing something else than be at Slimes totally pissed off becasue a DJ (not singling anyone out here Nick, there are others) chooses to play music that is much more suited for the average joe (townie ) club, that baering in mind Slimes is an alternative club.

New trend for Slimelight??? 8O
I would not call one(or maybe two) occasional guest Slimelight DJ the new trend for Slimelight... But it is deeply scary how often electroclashit-futurepop is heard on the upper floor by only one(or maybe two) DJ.

What I find funny is that in order to play some industrial/noise what these DJs select are really overplayed tunes, but nothing new to us... And that is taking the piss. Not for us on the dancefloor, but for the other DJs!! An example: on saturday I was talking(yeah, I was-!!!!-or maybe should I say listening??) with a lil'bunch of people and at some point we had to go to the dancefloor because we thought the electroshit set had ended as we could hear some familiar tunes. We even had bets to try and guess who was DJing without looking at the deck. Now our faces when we finally looked were pretty funny. It was not Mak as we(nearly) all thought... :roll:

Now if you are a DJ and you really really want to take the piss in a way we all have a laugh, play B52, Jane's Addiction or keep listening to other DJs sets and every now and then you will find what I am talking about. 8)

BTW electroclashit gets on my f***ing nerves cos you can not bloody repeat 80's at all: 80's happened and were unique. You can not "redo" it only relisten to it!! :x

Electroclashit is drop dead dull!!

This has been going on for sometime now so it's more of a trend than a one off...... :lol:

:?

Ok so you and me don't go that often to Slime for different reasons. You seem to be going when most Electroshit happens and me when most good nights happen... 8)
Erm... Can not say more here...

[pamdora2000]

for what is worth:

i always play what i want (emphasis on I), or i'd be playing prodigy/vnvnation all night long. that were the requests during the klinik track i played. i also try to play about 20-30% new stuff, to 'broaden people's minds'. however, generally people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests.

i never got involved in 'defending' what i play and i'm not writing this in my defence. i new i was going to regret getting involved into this conversation.

a suggestion: someone should start a forum where people voice their requests. i can only imagine what that would look like...


i think that speaks for itself. vnv nation well, you played some of the music of that ilk, why not play more? which is what i mean by lower floor music, your set would have gone down very well there. also i did not say it was a bad set per se, though it was an unsuitable set for the top floor in my opinion as people like me expect harder music than most of the tracks that you played.

to be honest, i know of people coming from all over europe and further even to slimelight cos it has gained a reputation for the noise that plays there, i would be a bit cheesed off if i was them, if a DJ played one eyed man at me. hypnoskull "electronic music means war to us" was released in 2001, TMO - "seven years of famine" was released in 2002, Imminent Starvation "nord" was released in 1999 all three are with Ant Zen ... so hardly the broaden your mind approach there.

in fact i am starting to wonder if TMO was in fact the newest track of the lot in your set.

It can be said louder but not clearer...

I can not agree more with you Snowwy!!!!!!!!!

:)

Me likes you...

[Blink]

Well,as Blink hadn't yet said it ;)

Rivetmike

Even i am getting bored of these threads now.

(Sounds like I would have quite enjoyed that set, and a lot of that "electro-pop" stuff, I can remember dancing to on the top floor in about 2001.....I remember standing on the ledge, waving my glowstiks to Covenant Figurehead/Go Film, and Mak always used to close with Apop/Delerium....myabe things haven't changed that much 8O )

[Rivetmike]

Even i am getting bored of these threads now.



Same here.I used to delight in splitting hairs over genre terminology but I can just about muster up a sarcy remark here and there now.

Rivetmike

[Skylizard]

Well,as Blink hadn't yet said it ;)

Rivetmike

....myabe things haven't changed that much 8O )

I think that's part of the problem

[snoww_wwhite]

Well,as Blink hadn't yet said it ;)

Rivetmike

Even i am getting bored of these threads now.

(Sounds like I would have quite enjoyed that set, and a lot of that "electro-pop" stuff, I can remember dancing to on the top floor in about 2001.....I remember standing on the ledge, waving my glowstiks to Covenant Figurehead/Go Film, and Mak always used to close with Apop/Delerium....myabe things haven't changed that much 8O )

wasnt it time that some dj educates you/broadens your mind into more modern/unusual music ? ;)

[Blink]

wasnt it time that some dj educates you/broadens your mind into more modern/unusual music ? ;)

Am merely pointing out that some people who complain about the wrong sort of music being played on the top floor may like to bear in mind that the same sort of music was being played on the top floor a few years ago. maybe they would like to find another club instead of insisting on DJ's stopping playing music that has historically been played on the top floor

:wink:

[snoww_wwhite]

wasnt it time that some dj educates you/broadens your mind into more modern/unusual music ? ;)

Am merely pointing out that some people who complain about the wrong sort of music being played on the top floor may like to bear in mind that the same sort of music was being played on the top floor a few years ago. maybe they would like to find another club instead of insisting on DJ's stopping playing music that has historically been played on the top floor

:wink:

yes they would very much like to find a different club, a club in which one does not have to listen to anything but industrial would be fantastic, unfortunately i have not got the spare change to get one as yet... if you like to sponsor me, i got no problem with it.

i think his music would have been fine on the lower floor, also i think industrial and especially the extreme stuff is totally under represented, yes i usually go to Strenghth Through Joy but there is no weekly club that caters for very hard industrial and noise (which makes Slimelight so special), if there was, i would move in there no doubt at all....

[Rivetmike]

wasnt it time that some dj educates you/broadens your mind into more modern/unusual music ? ;)

I think the (predominantly) electroclash setlist that Nick has provided is about as modern (albeit in a retro fashion) and unusual as you are likely to see outside of specialist clubs for that sort of thing (like Nag Nag Nag etc.).

Can you honestly say that you were familiar with these names before Nick posted the setlist?

Rivetmike

[Blink]

yes they would very much like to find a different club, a club in which one does not have to listen to anything but industrial would be fantastic, unfortunately i have not got the spare change to get one as yet... if you like to sponsor me, i got no problem with it.

I would love to own/run a club when I get the cash together, then we can negotiate a noise floor

[snoww_wwhite]

wasnt it time that some dj educates you/broadens your mind into more modern/unusual music ? ;)

I think the (predominantly) electroclash setlist that Nick has provided is about as modern (albeit in a retro fashion) and unusual as you are likely to see outside of specialist clubs for that sort of thing (like Nag Nag Nag etc.).

Can you honestly say that you were familiar with these names before Nick posted the setlist?

Rivetmike

telepopmusic - smile
depeche mode - something to do [black strobe]
fisherspooner - just let go [remix]
skinny puppy - far too frail
front 242 - never stop
laibach - opus dei
covenant - figurehead
i.o.c. - repeat it
apb - eclipse
this morn' omina - one eyed man
klinik - moving hands [d-foundation mix]
hypnoskull - effective mind mech.
imminent starvation - tentack one

13/22 i guess thats about a c+

and i am also familiar with some of the other tracks that were played yet not mentioned including a compilation of several tracks

[Rivetmike]

13/22 i guess thats about a c+



You know I didn't mean the obvious ones (like Laibach etc.),ya cheeky mare......

Rivetmike

[snoww_wwhite]

13/22 i guess thats about a c+



You know I didn't mean the obvious ones (like Laibach etc.),ya cheeky mare......

Rivetmike

hehe, i said telepopmusic anddepeche mode too didnt i?

no seriously i have heard one or the other track at a mates house but i would not want to buy it, as its not exciting enough for me but you know me, i prefer beatheavy stomptastic marching drums... thats me... and also, i just love to repeat it :

who was on the dancefloor when as good as everyone had legged it?

what was playing at the time?

no i think i have got the right to voice my opinion, if anything i am usually very compliant with whatever plays, though i like to say it when i was pleased and when i was displeased too.

i am gagging for a good noise session now :P

[Blink]

who was on the dancefloor when as good as everyone had legged it?

what was playing at the time?

no i think i have got the right to voice my opinion, if anything i am usually very compliant with whatever plays, though i like to say it when i was pleased and when i was displeased too.

i am gagging for a good noise session now :P

Actually, the usual way to express your displeasure at the music being played is to leave the dancefloor, not to carry on dancing. DJ's tend to think people like the music if they are dancing to it (or alternatively that they are too munted to care)

[snoww_wwhite]

who was on the dancefloor when as good as everyone had legged it?

what was playing at the time?

no i think i have got the right to voice my opinion, if anything i am usually very compliant with whatever plays, though i like to say it when i was pleased and when i was displeased too.

i am gagging for a good noise session now :P

Actually, the usual way to express your displeasure at the music being played is to leave the dancefloor, not to carry on dancing. DJ's tend to think people like the music if they are dancing to it (or alternatively that they are too munted to care)

i usually start looking really bored and i leave the dancefloor when i got so enough that i cannot take it... i can understand that the DJ thinks he is great when people carry on dancing but i am just too stubborn usually and i can never get that munted that i dont care about the music

anyone is welcome to try to get me to reach it though ;)

[snakelegs]

Probably it wasn't real power of industrial ,but some drum & drill or ebm coz just few ppl recognize that :-)
:idea: :twisted: :idea:

[snakelegs]

[music and introduce those who didn't know much about the scene, to it , and not reduce them to mindless repeated week in week out playlists, Rex springs to mind here.

Just my 2 cents,[/quote]\

Totaly agree i think dj's should bring every night something new and wait for feedback :-)

[pamdora2000]

Well,as Blink hadn't yet said it ;)

Rivetmike

Even i am getting bored of these threads now.

(Sounds like I would have quite enjoyed that set, and a lot of that "electro-pop" stuff, I can remember dancing to on the top floor in about 2001.....I remember standing on the ledge, waving my glowstiks to Covenant Figurehead/Go Film, and Mak always used to close with Apop/Delerium....myabe things haven't changed that much 8O )

Yeah, Mak used to close with Delerium or drop it any time during one of his two sets. Not Industrial, not noise but not a full bloody set of whatever. Also it was a period for him I believe. Now no Delerium or similar can be heard in his set.
Anyway, Mak is one of the DJs from which I have learnt more and he has much interesting stuff which he will never ever share,...
Funny but I have found that his style/choice of music is often copied. One wonders why.
He plays all sorts and sometimes he does get funny sets, but then thats him and he rules...
I should not go on as I always defend him,...

[snoww_wwhite]

Yeah, Mak used to close with Delerium or drop it any time during one of his two sets. Not Industrial, not noise but not a full bloody set of whatever. Also it was a period for him I believe. Now no Delerium or similar can be heard in his set.
Anyway, Mak is one of the DJs from which I have learnt more and he has much interesting stuff which he will never ever share,...
Funny but I have found that his style/choice of music is often copied. One wonders why.
He plays all sorts and sometimes he does get funny sets, but then thats him and he rules...
I should not go on as I always defend him,...

well, i would very very much appreciate though if we could be informed in advance, well at least about 3 or 4 days before who is DJing on what night also roughly what time... i would be prepared to time my enthusiams according to who will create noise and who will not.

advance notice would be even more great if we would be given the time table a lot longer than 3 or 4 days previous to the night, more like 3 or 4 weeks, as i could then let my german mates know when to bother to book a flight and when they better stay at home :)

do i make sense or is this garbled, as i am reasonably drunk this evening

[Blink]

Yeah, Mak used to close with Delerium or drop it any time during one of his two sets. Not Industrial, not noise but not a full bloody set of whatever. Also it was a period for him I believe. Now no Delerium or similar can be heard in his set.

Depeche Mode, Accadia?

Don't get me wrong, I really like Mak's sets (well, apart from that bloody Depeche Mode song, and any Prodigy, far to over-played...well, maybe Hyperspeed, but i don't think I have ever heard it at Slime). I was just pointing out that I can remember times in the past where there was EBM and dance played, probably hour long sets.

Not that I am saying there shouldn't be more noise, it is just fun winding up all the noise-merchants who think they are the only ones who have any say in what should be played at Slime

[Flux]

well, i would very very much appreciate though if we could be informed in advance, well at least about 3 or 4 days before who is DJing on what night also roughly what time... i would be prepared to time my enthusiams according to who will create noise and who will not.

advance notice would be even more great if we would be given the time table a lot longer than 3 or 4 days previous to the night, more like 3 or 4 weeks, as i could then let my german mates know when to bother to book a flight and when they better stay at home :)


You make perfect sense & I agree with you that it would be nice to know who would be playing in advance, BUT...as far as I know this is why that just wont happen (if anyone knows better please feel free to correct me ;))

* the dj's are not usually "confirmed" until the day (or at least a day or two before). This is why some weeks you find there are lots of djs and other weeks not so many.

* some dj's can only play on occaision (i.e. when they have the free time), which can mean that you may not see them for a while (Alex is a prime example :( he plays some fantastic techno sets), and again means that some weeks you may find there are lots of djs and other weeks not so many.

* the dj rota is not usually finalised until the night itself, and even then there may be alterations made to the rota.

[Guy13]

Yeah, Mak used to close with Delerium or drop it any time during one of his two sets. Not Industrial, not noise but not a full bloody set of whatever. Also it was a period for him I believe. Now no Delerium or similar can be heard in his set.

Depeche Mode, Accadia?

Don't get me wrong, I really like Mak's sets (well, apart from that bloody Depeche Mode song, and any Prodigy, far to over-played...well, maybe Hyperspeed, but i don't think I have ever heard it at Slime). I was just pointing out that I can remember times in the past where there was EBM and dance played, probably hour long sets.

Not that I am saying there shouldn't be more noise, it is just fun winding up all the noise-merchants who think they are the only ones who have any say in what should be played at Slime

If clubs can't adapt and evolve, then they stagnate (god, I am getting bored of saying that). What might of been appropriate for the top floor 4 or 5 years ago needn't be appropriate now. Music changes, so why can't clubs and DJ's. I was under the impression that clubs were a commerecial enterprise, not a personal listening session for DJs. Supply and demand...anyone?

[pamdora2000]

well, i would very very much appreciate though if we could be informed in advance, well at least about 3 or 4 days before who is DJing on what night also roughly what time... i would be prepared to time my enthusiams according to who will create noise and who will not.

advance notice would be even more great if we would be given the time table a lot longer than 3 or 4 days previous to the night, more like 3 or 4 weeks, as i could then let my german mates know when to bother to book a flight and when they better stay at home :)


You make perfect sense & I agree with you that it would be nice to know who would be playing in advance, BUT...as far as I know this is why that just wont happen (if anyone knows better please feel free to correct me ;))

* the dj's are not usually "confirmed" until the day (or at least a day or two before). This is why some weeks you find there are lots of djs and other weeks not so many.

* some dj's can only play on occaision (i.e. when they have the free time), which can mean that you may not see them for a while (Alex is a prime example :( he plays some fantastic techno sets), and again means that some weeks you may find there are lots of djs and other weeks not so many.

* the dj rota is not usually finalised until the night itself, and even then there may be alterations made to the rota.

Very correctly said. Yep impossible to know what is going to happen until the very last minute, which adds a bit of spice to the thing.

Now...
Suggestion from here... :idea:

It may take a bit of time and incurr in a bit of extra expense for the management, but then: and this goes to you Dette and Mak, do you want an alternative club still and earning money or an incresingly normal club and earn shit lots of money... Then again, with the possibility I will now present, maybe you will still earn shit lots of money and still run a deliciously alternative club... 8)

Take your members list(so the membership gets again a bit of the meaning it has certainly-and sadly- much lost by now)and do a little research by doing a survey on what sort of music/bands/style they like to hear and dance to. Then see what happens with this and take actions.

BTW, I do know about Alex. He does not really play Industrial but has an excellent musical (Techno) taste and knows very well how to build up the atmosphere. I have seen amazing dancefloors with him(sometimes I like to stop and just watch for a moment what is happening form a high corner of the floor). Yeah, each DJ their own style...

[Blink]

If clubs can't adapt and evolve, then they stagnate (god, I am getting bored of saying that). What might of been appropriate for the top floor 4 or 5 years ago needn't be appropriate now. Music changes, so why can't clubs and DJ's. I was under the impression that clubs were a commerecial enterprise, not a personal listening session for DJs. Supply and demand...anyone?

I agree Guy, I was just pointing out that the style of music people are complaining about now, had been played on the top floor for a while. You could also argue that the style of the top floor has evolved over the last 5 years, but towards a more techno style.

You could argue that supply and demand dictates that slimelight should go further down this path and become more mainstream.

You can't have it both ways, you can't say that slimelight needs to evolve, and then complain that it evolves away from the style of music you like, and you then can't complain that it plays music which it has traditionally been asociated with and has not evolved.

(Here I am contrasting people wanting it to evolve, and then complaining about it playing techno/trance/Ibiza, and then asking it to play more "traditional" fare, and complaining about it playing EBM).

*Note* I am not saying that what is being played on the top floor is good/right, just pointing out the flaws in the arguements being presented.

[Rivetmike]

If clubs can't adapt and evolve, then they stagnate (god, I am getting bored of saying that). What might of been appropriate for the top floor 4 or 5 years ago needn't be appropriate now. Music changes, so why can't clubs and DJ's. I was under the impression that clubs were a commerecial enterprise, not a personal listening session for DJs. Supply and demand...anyone?

What do you suggest (in your infinate wisdom ;)) is appropriate now? If you can give reasons why Slimelight would be a better club with your suggestions (not just for you but for other patrons and the management too).

Rivetmike

[pamdora2000]

Yeah, Mak used to close with Delerium or drop it any time during one of his two sets. Not Industrial, not noise but not a full bloody set of whatever. Also it was a period for him I believe. Now no Delerium or similar can be heard in his set.

Depeche Mode, Accadia?

Don't get me wrong, I really like Mak's sets (well, apart from that bloody Depeche Mode song, and any Prodigy, far to over-played...well, maybe Hyperspeed, but i don't think I have ever heard it at Slime).

Yep, Depeche Mode, Accadia. True, forgot, but I insist, one song or two, not the whole set...

And Prodigy are never overplayed. They twist the fire... :P

[Blink]

And Prodigy are never overplayed. They twist the fire... :P [/color]


*bangs head* *bangs head* *bangs head*


:wink:

[Rivetmike]

*Note* I am not saying that what is being played on the top floor is good/right, just pointing out the flaws in the arguements being presented.

Exactly what I am trying to highlight,there are two sides to every argument and only when you understand both can you present a well informed point.

Criticism should be more constructive around here.

Rivetmike

[Skylizard]

If clubs can't adapt and evolve, then they stagnate (god, I am getting bored of saying that). What might of been appropriate for the top floor 4 or 5 years ago needn't be appropriate now. Music changes, so why can't clubs and DJ's. I was under the impression that clubs were a commerecial enterprise, not a personal listening session for DJs. Supply and demand...anyone?

I agree Guy, I was just pointing out that the style of music people are complaining about now, had been played on the top floor for a while. You could also argue that the style of the top floor has evolved over the last 5 years, but towards a more techno style.

You could argue that supply and demand dictates that slimelight should go further down this path and become more mainstream.

You can't have it both ways, you can't say that slimelight needs to evolve, and then complain that it evolves away from the style of music you like, and you then can't complain that it plays music which it has traditionally been asociated with and has not evolved.

.

Then essentially if it is to evolve the Ibiza mainstream way as you suggest, then it will no longer be Slimelight the alternative club would it?
It may as well close down and reopen as a aMinistry of Sound spin off....
Sorry but i don't see the logic in your argument, supply and demand are one thing, but I don't see a club full of Ibiza clubbing people demanding mainstream\Ibiza music week in week out. I see a club of Alernative people demanding music been played from current alternative genres.
Noize, industrial, Ebm, Electro....etc etc have all evolved to brings us new variations in the scene i have to see any of them as Ibiza\ mainstream bands. Noize was just breaking ground 5 years ago, look how much it has grown since then..........

[Flux]

pamdora2000;

I completely agree with you about Mak. As I often tell him he is one of my favourite dj's at Slimelight (along with Francesca & Pete...and Alex when he's about). Without Mak I may well have not gotten into noize at all ( I HATED it when Mak first started playing it, but as he refined what he played and introduced me to certain artists I realised just how great it can be...hell, I even make the stuff now!)

Over the years Mak has introduced me to many many fine artists and also given me so much music for which I am uber thankful for! In return I like to give Mak music which I think he'll like as altho I've told him to ask for any albums etc he wants, he never does.

I've been trying to persuade him to take to playing two sets in a night again as I really miss dancing to them! The thing that I really love about them (as I'm sure you do) is the fact that Mak plays a very eclectic set...the tunes may not instinctively go together, but that means that the sets are never short of interesting. I have to admit that this is something of an inspiration in my own dj sets. I'd much rather hear something interesting and unpredictable than the same set week in week out.

Anywho, I'm going into a bit of a defensive rant myself now so I'll just shush. Just wanted to say that I know where you're coming from ;)

[Guy13]

I agree Guy, I was just pointing out that the style of music people are complaining about now, had been played on the top floor for a while. You could also argue that the style of the top floor has evolved over the last 5 years, but towards a more techno style.

I don't have a problem with techno...electroclash is not techno.

You could argue that supply and demand dictates that slimelight should go further down this path and become more mainstream.

I meant within the context of Slimes...you know I did. More and more people on the top floor are wanting noise. The amount of people I (and others I know) have spoken to confirms this.

You can't have it both ways, you can't say that slimelight needs to evolve, and then complain that it evolves away from the style of music you like, and you then can't complain that it plays music which it has traditionally been asociated with and has not evolved.

(Here I am contrasting people wanting it to evolve, and then complaining about it playing techno/trance/Ibiza, and then asking it to play more "traditional" fare, and complaining about it playing EBM).

See above comment. Regressing to previously played styles of music is not evolution. Electroclash is as retro as some trad goth. Whilst this isn't always a bad thing, it is on the forward looking "industech" floor.

*Note* I am not saying that what is being played on the top floor is good/right, just pointing out the flaws in the arguements being presented.

*puts Blink "on the list"* Come the noise revolution, you will be shot against a wall. :twisted: :wink:

[Skylizard]

pamdora2000;

I completely agree with you about Mak. As I often tell him he is one of my favourite dj's at Slimelight (along with Francesca & Pete...and Alex when he's about). Without Mak I may well have not gotten into noize at all ( I HATED it when Mak first started playing it, but as he refined what he played and introduced me to certain artists I realised just how great it can be...hell, I even make the stuff now!)

Over the years Mak has introduced me to many many fine artists and also given me so much music for which I am uber thankful for! In return I like to give Mak music which I think he'll like as altho I've told him to ask for any albums etc he wants, he never does.

I've been trying to persuade him to take to playing two sets in a night again as I really miss dancing to them! The thing that I really love about them (as I'm sure you do) is the fact that Mak plays a very eclectic set...the tunes may not instinctively go together, but that means that the sets are never short of interesting. I have to admit that this is something of an inspiration in my own dj sets. I'd much rather hear something interesting and unpredictable than the same set week in week out.

Anywho, I'm going into a bit of a defensive rant myself now so I'll just shush. Just wanted to say that I know where you're coming from ;)

Nice one Flux,

That's what i said earlier about DJs bringing new music to the people, it's needed and DJs have the power to do it, just a pity some DJs think it's necessary to play the same old tired shit week in week out.

[pamdora2000]

If clubs can't adapt and evolve, then they stagnate (god, I am getting bored of saying that). What might of been appropriate for the top floor 4 or 5 years ago needn't be appropriate now. Music changes, so why can't clubs and DJ's. I was under the impression that clubs were a commerecial enterprise, not a personal listening session for DJs. Supply and demand...anyone?

I agree Guy, I was just pointing out that the style of music people are complaining about now, had been played on the top floor for a while. You could also argue that the style of the top floor has evolved over the last 5 years, but towards a more techno style.

You could argue that supply and demand dictates that slimelight should go further down this path and become more mainstream.

You can't have it both ways, you can't say that slimelight needs to evolve, and then complain that it evolves away from the style of music you like, and you then can't complain that it plays music which it has traditionally been asociated with and has not evolved.

.

Then essentially if it is to evolve the Ibiza mainstream way as you suggest, then it will no longer be Slimelight the alternative club would it?
It may as well close down and reopen as a aMinistry of Sound spin off....
Sorry but i don't see the logic in your argument, supply and demand are one thing, but I don't see a club full of Ibiza clubbing people demanding mainstream\Ibiza music week in week out. I see a club of Alernative people demanding music been played from current alternative genres.
Noize, industrial, Ebm, Electro....etc etc have all evolved to brings us new variations in the scene i have to see any of them as Ibiza\ mainstream bands. Noize was just breaking ground 5 years ago, look how much it has grown since then..........

I am now wondering why we do not have a "kissing emoticon" to stick in our converstions...

[Blink]

[color=red]Then essentially if it is to evolve the Ibiza mainstream way as you suggest, then it will no longer be Slimelight the alternative club would it?


that isn't what i was saying, all I was trying to point out was that people complain if they play new music which they don't think fits in with the style of the top floor (ie Ibiza stuff), and then complain when they play stuff that has fitted in with the style of the top floor (ie EBM) and they also say that the music should be about supply and demand, and then complain that the music seems to be geared towards the [apparent] demand created by the [apparent] rise in a more dance-orientated clientelle. (IE meeting supply and demand).

The simplest, and most effective, way of expressing your dislike for something is by not going (and I know you subscribe to this theory Lizard).

This arguement has been going on for as long as this board, and will continue to do so unless one of two things happen

either

a) The slimelight management finally realise that everyone on here is talking sense, and that they have their music/DJ policy wrong, and start changing it.

or

b) The people complaining about it go and find themselves something better to do with their Saturday evenings.

[And anyone who says that Slimelight has an obligation to their clientelle/reputation don't understand the basics of a market economy, if you don't like the service a company is providing, you don't have to buy it, and the company is not obligated to change their service to one that you want. The company provides a service they think the market needs, and the market either buys it, or doesn't. remember this when one of your fav bands release an album you don't like or you pay to see a film you don't like]

Like I say, my points aren't so much about what happens on the top floor, more about the nature of the arguements been stated here....and I am in an arguementative mood today

[Rivetmike]

I don't have a problem with techno...electroclash is not techno.

This is where you are letting personal tastes dictate your argument.Electroclash is no less alternative than techno is (in fact I would say electroclash is more alternative than techno as we are yet to see european stadium tours from electroclash artists whereas we frequently do from techno DJs)

I meant within the context of Slimes...you know I did. More and more people on the top floor are wanting noise. The amount of people I (and others I know) have spoken to confirms this.

Quick bit of maths for you.Sick & Twisted is Londons noisiest club by far.It is held on a dancefloor much smaller than that upstairs at Slime and it's only viable once a month..........

See above comment. Regressing to previously played styles of music is not evolution. Electroclash is as retro as some trad goth. Whilst this isn't always a bad thing, it is on the forward looking "industech" floor.

Perhaps I agree with this,electroclash is retro in sound and maybe should be on another floor.

I love dancing to my noise stuff but I really don't see the problem with sharing (also I don't see the hundreds of noise fans week in week out needed to fill the dancefloor).

Rivetmike

[Rivetmike]

And anyone who says that Slimelight has an obligation to their clientelle/reputation

Lets face it Blink,if people do say this then I'm guessing they would be happy if it reverted exclusively to a traditional goth/punk club as it once was........

......of course they wouldn't.

Rivetmike

[Rivetmike]

Anyway you are all bastards as you made break my promise to myself not to bother with these discussions anymore :(

Rivetmike

[Blink]

See above comment. Regressing to previously played styles of music is not evolution. Electroclash is as retro as some trad goth. Whilst this isn't always a bad thing, it is on the forward looking "industech" floor.



Did I read Snowwy right a while ago, when she said a lot of the "noise" stuff you like, such as Imminent Starvation that is played at Slimes was written in the early 90's? Progression?

(Forgive me if I am wrong here, not really my scene)

As a side note, when the revolution comes, I will be on a small pacific Island

[snoww_wwhite]

Quick bit of maths for you.Sick & Twisted in Londons noisiest club by far.It is held on a dancefloor much smaller than that upstairs at Slime and it's only viable once a month..........


actually

actually

actually

....


when i went there it was not even full it was BURSTING, they played gabber, more gabber and even more gabber. there were plenty of dickhead townies and hippies, one of which decided he wanted to kick me.

i had already thought i would not mind going back there if it wasnt for the crapheads who like to make my evening pretty shit and the fact that the venue is about half the size it should be....


now maths anyone?

[Skylizard]

Anyway you are all bastards as you made break my promise to myself not to bother with these discussions anymore :(

Rivetmike

You know it makes sense..... :lol:

[Blink]

Anyway you are all bastards as you made break my promise to myself not to bother with these discussions anymore :(

Rivetmike

I know, but god, isn't it fun :D

[SP]

*Yawn* Ahh, another "not enough noise" thread *goes back to bed*

PS. Loved your set Nik ... a refreshing change!

[Rivetmike]

Anyway you are all bastards as you made break my promise to myself not to bother with these discussions anymore :(

Rivetmike

I know, but god, isn't it fun :D

I'm only doing it as it's this or a 1000 line Excel spreadsheet to change prices :(

Rivetmike

[pamdora2000]

That's what i said earlier about DJs bringing new music to the people, it's needed and DJs have the power to do it, just a pity some DJs think it's necessary to play the same old tired shit week in week out.[/quote]

I find very funny that people always complain about the same music being played all the time in Slimelight. It sadly does happen in the goth floor for a very strange reason I never quite got to understand. And again here, I have heard really truly amazing kind of goth/after punk sets by Mak on very rare occasions where an unusual improvised dancefloor was set. Maybe he should delight people sometimes downstairs and maybe then I will set my feet more often on that floor too...

Now for upstairs,...

Ok, you get periods when weeks after weeks songs are repeated because they are popular. Also you get the chance to hear some tunes that really uplifted our moods a few years back and I think it is very nice for let us call us "mid-old-timers" :wink: to get to dance to those them... It brings us back together and to a very nice kind of trancey state(no need to be on anything) where you do feel a connection between people. There is nothing wrong with playing let us say classics, they are good to remember now and then. Also it seems to bring back a feeling that has certainly gone from the upstairs floor and it is the one of a huge bunch of kind of dancefloor colleagues, which like to see the rest of the people having a good time and contribute towards it in a way or another... Last time this happen was NYE, but then, lots of those "mid-olt-timers" were there...

Oooops, ...

Me thinks I have lost the plot here.

Coming back to the point I completely disagree with that "they always paly the same at Slimes" sentence. If you say so, maybe you are not attentive enough and are maybe talking too much, but Slimes does renew itself quite a lot...

How otherwise am I still getting all the musical knowledge??

Lots of Industrial/Noise still could be played but nothing is fucking perfect...

[Skylizard]

Quick bit of maths for you.Sick & Twisted in Londons noisiest club by far.It is held on a dancefloor much smaller than that upstairs at Slime and it's only viable once a month..........


Sick And Twisted upstairs at The Garage Friday Feb 11
type: general 10pm-3am
prices: UKP5, concs UKP4
Gabba, Digital Hardcore, drill'n'bass, industrial, techno, breakcore, raggacore and other evil noise with Broken Yolk, Alex B and At War on the decks plus industrial gabba with Zero Point Energy live.

With that music going i'm not surprised. I wouldn't want to spend an evening waiting for Industrial and Noize, and have to listen to the all that other stuff.

[Blink]

Also it seems to bring back a feeling that has certainly gone from the upstairs floor and it is the one of a huge bunch of kind of dancefloor colleagues

I remember that time.

For me, it was the time when Mak was playing stuff like Covenant, and playing some harder beats underneath it (I seem to remember).

Those were the days

:D

[darkmogwai]

Lots of Industrial/Noise still could be played but nothing is fucking perfect...

Best thing anyone has said on this thread thus far.

[Skylizard]

Coming back to the point I completely disagree with that "they always paly the same at Slimes" sentence. If you say so, maybe you are not attentive enough and are maybe talking too much, but Slimes does renew itself quite a lot...

How otherwise am I still getting all the musical knowledge??

quote]

How long you been going to slimes???????????

[quote]Lots of Industrial/Noise still could be played but nothing is fucking perfect...[/

Agree but it's the Ibiza techno stuff we are complaing about at the moment.

[pamdora2000]

*Yawn* Ahh, another "not enough noise" thread *goes back to bed*

PS. Loved your set Nik ... a refreshing change!

Yeah so refreshing maybe because hardly nobody was dancing and it was freezing cold outside,...

Have a nice sleep SP. We will wake you up again when Nik turns up again, so you can come with flipflops and some suntan lotion as well... :P

[Rivetmike]

If we cut through all the bullshit this argument obviously comes down to personal taste doesn't it?

Personally I'd love to hear more early-mid 90s guitar industrial a la 16 Volt,Chemlab,Cubanate,Ministry,KMFDM etc. and their more recent counterparts (of which there still are plenty,does anywhere in London play them....nope).

I find trying to get a club to change a policy (in Slimelights case it seems to be keeping a lot of fingers in a lot of alternative pies) futile (especially when it seems to be one that the management are happy with).

Rivetmike

[Skylizard]

*Yawn* Ahh, another "not enough noise" thread *goes back to bed*



Wasn't actually, but that's what you get when you've slept through most of it :)

[Blink]

*Yawn* Ahh, another "not enough noise" thread *goes back to bed*



Wasn't actually, but that's what you get when you've slept through most of it :)

It was Lizard, basically, all the people who complain about the music policy want there to be more noise!

i should have slept through most of it!

[Skylizard]

If we cut through all the bullshit this argument obviously comes down to personal taste doesn't it?

Rivetmike

It sure is and judging by the continous threads of arguments, people just don't want the Ibiza\techno stuff at Slimes. Not really a policy change , just an amemdment to bring it up to date.

[pamdora2000]

How long you been going to slimes???????????

The first time I set my feet into Slimelight it was 10 years ago. Could not believe a place like that could still be running so long after the 80's.

Lots of Industrial/Noise still could be played but nothing is fucking perfect...[/

Agree but it's the Ibiza techno stuff we are complaing about at the moment.[/quote]

We are actually complaining about a couple of sets played last saturday night. They were not Ibiza Techno stuff(even though I have never been to Ibiza). They were Electroclashy thingies... :|

Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden... :twisted:

[Blink]

Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden... :twisted:

If I like it, does that make me a wanker?

8O

[Skylizard]

*Yawn* Ahh, another "not enough noise" thread *goes back to bed*



Wasn't actually, but that's what you get when you've slept through most of it :)

It was Lizard, basically, all the people who complain about the music policy want there to be more noise!

i should have slept through most of it!

You did sleep through most of it, Snowwy kicked this all off, becasue Nick took the piss out of her.

[snoww_wwhite]

The simplest, and most effective, way of expressing your dislike for something is by not going (and I know you subscribe to this theory Lizard).


and leave the field to the people who are essentially dressed up townies...
i might feel like i have to do that at some stage but i still harbour hopes that it would not be nessessary



[And anyone who says that Slimelight has an obligation to their clientelle/reputation don't understand the basics of a market economy, if you don't like the service a company is providing, you don't have to buy it, and the company is not obligated to change their service to one that you want. The company provides a service they think the market needs, and the market either buys it, or doesn't. remember this when one of your fav bands release an album you don't like or you pay to see a film you don't like]


but you are forgetting that Slimelight cn provide the best night in history of clubbing to any goth/rivethead/cyber and similar (like mine were the night when Xotox played and the following noise and the night of the three insaniacs (Matt, Untermensch and Pete) who played a soul destroying blasting night good enough to make me dance right to the edge of my capabilities (you know what that means dont you? ;) )

which is extremely great and as i said around new year, when i thanked the Sliemelight management for having the guts to go where not many clubs (bar Das Bunker) would go and play noise .. at least some every week.

Slimelight has got my full support as in mouth to mouth propaganda, glowing reviews on german industrial boards (as moderator or as simple subscriber) and elsewhere...

Slimelight is a great club, i would love to see some of the ideas that were floating about amongst the germans (i.e. the thing with the internet broadcast) were put into practice but i have of course no idea how feasable that might be etc.

what i was disgruntled about was that there as future pop played upstairs. at the same time they played futurepop downstairs. its easy, that need had been clearly taken care of but not the need for a little bit more noise. also i do not mind general oldschool industrial, in fact i think it would make very much sense if that was played more often upstairs but please in moderation. if anyone needs to know how to do it then ask Francesca, i think she can teach everyone a lot still (i would love her to be there every week). if anyone needs to know what noise is it and whats not so, go and ask Matt and Untermensch (again i would love to see them more often ;) )


Like I say, my points aren't so much about what happens on the top floor, more about the nature of the arguements been stated here....and I am in an arguementative mood today

well i could have refrained from naming Nick (Panic) as the DJ of my clubbing disgruntlement. though i must say i had my reason for doing so and until he posted here, i did not knwo he was the same Panic as on this board, as his picture did not look at all similar to him in reality.

i was not happy, i had told by staff to express it here as well as when i complained in the night, so i did.

noise is obviously a little bit too much for most people but i have heard coversations when people described their "slimelight experience" that even though they did not like the music they just had to go and see the noiseheads as they are standing out so much, their enthusiasm for the music, the amount and style of dancing, their passion. for the first time in my long history of clubbing i heard anyone saying that it was something they have never seen and that allone was worth going and that they never knew about this extreme type of industrial.

in many ways Slimelight is a cutting edge and ground breaking club, i love it there, that is why i am speaking out when things get me down :)


(ffs was that me singing praises? somebody shoot me!) ;)

[pamdora2000]

Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden... :twisted:

If I like it, does that make me a wanker?

8O

Nope, I just mean that Torture Garden is full of wankers and correct me if I am wrong or this has changed(have not been there for a long time and have only been there 3 times)and they do play shit music...

:?:

Was just being naughty, Blink... :wink:

[Blink]

You did sleep through most of it, Snowwy kicked this all off, becasue Nick took the piss out of her.

Exactly, people wanting more noise!

[Rivetmike]

You did sleep through most of it, Snowwy kicked this all off, becasue Nick took the piss out of her.

I don't know (only Nick can answer this) but (as I have said to Snowwy) I should imagine that Nick probably felt agreived at being asked to change his set round when he had been hired by Slimelight to play what he is known for.

S'only a guess.

Rivetmike

[snoww_wwhite]

Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden... :twisted:

If I like it, does that make me a wanker?

8O

not at all, i like you, you seem a nice bloke... townie but nice :P

[Rivetmike]

Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden... :twisted:

If I like it, does that make me a wanker?

8O

*sits in the wanking corner with Blink*

Rivetmike

[Guy13]

If we cut through all the bullshit this argument obviously comes down to personal taste doesn't it?

Rivetmike

It sure is and judging by the continous threads of arguments, people just don't want the Ibiza\techno stuff at Slimes. Not really a policy change , just an amemdment to bring it up to date.

*standing ovation*

And when DJs turn around and say what amounts to "I don't care what the entrance fee paying members want, I'm the DJ" is it any bloody suprise?

[Blink]

not at all, i like you, you seem a nice bloke... townie but nice :P

My other half will agree with that totally

[snoww_wwhite]

We are actually complaining about a couple of sets played last saturday night. They were not Ibiza Techno stuff(even though I have never been to Ibiza). They were Electroclashy thingies... :|

Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden... :twisted:

well, i was even more so complaining about the futurepop and no matter how little i get believed there were more than 3 songs which fall into the cathegory, though its hard now to find out which ones they were and it doesnt really matter either.

i thought it was a bit weird when i went downstairs and the same type of music was playing there at the time. i also try to stay upstairs a lot because i am so hungry for noise that i would hate to miss a good track, if you see what i mean... the mere fact that i know almost every note of a lot of fu-po tracks makes me weep ;)

and Pamdora, i totally agree with you, i stopped going to Egg and torture garden cos i dislike it there so much that i never had a good time there as long as i can remember... it was different when it was full tilt and every week :(

oh and electroclash... just dont do it

electroclash night below... would we like to see slimelight like this?

http://www.djgreghaus.com/retroelectro/rt14.jpg

[Rivetmike]

And when DJs turn around and say what amounts to "I don't care what the entrance fee paying members want, I'm the DJ" is it any bloody suprise?

I'll reiterate,I'm sure the DJ is booked based on what the management know s/he will play.

I take it you took a survey of the paying members in attendance on the night in question?

Rivetmike

[Blink]

And when DJs turn around and say what amounts to "I don't care what the entrance fee paying members want, I'm the DJ" is it any bloody suprise?

As Mike says, they are employed to play their style of music. (wow, I wrote that as Mike was writing his post above!! You is on my wavelength sir)

Would you go up to a band and tell them what songs to play in their set?

Do you like being told how to do your job, by drugged up people?

And also remember that all these townies may also be going up and making requests, I find some DJ's, as a policy, to avoid being hassled by drunk/drugged punters, just tell everyone to fuck off

[Skylizard]

Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden... :twisted:

If I like it, does that make me a wanker?

8O

No you are just naturally a wanker :)

[pamdora2000]

I knew the drug thing was going to come up!!!

Was expecting it at some point...

Me don't do drugs. Not alcohol(other drug). No.

Once every 6 months maybe now.

I like enjoying the thing as it is, real... And I still get highs, believe me... Whenever the good stuff is played...

[Skylizard]

And when DJs turn around and say what amounts to "I don't care what the entrance fee paying members want, I'm the DJ" is it any bloody suprise?

I'll reiterate,I'm sure the DJ is booked based on what the management know s/he will play.

I take it you took a survey of the paying members in attendance on the night in question?

Rivetmike

Not true Mike, ****** (leaving his name out) who DJs a lot up north has guessed DJ'd at Slimes a few times, was booked and asked to play Noize,Dark electro (top floor stuff) but when he got there they told him to play goth and middle floor stuff, all of which he hadn't brought music for......

[Rivetmike]

Not true Mike, ****** (leaving his name out) who DJs a lot up north has guessed DJ'd at Slimes a few times, was booked and asked to play Noize,Dark electro (top floor stuff) but when he got there they told him to play goth and middle floor stuff, all of which he hadn't brought music for......

OK,well this is news to me.

But it further proves my point against Guy that blaming the DJ is possibly not the best idea.......

Rivetmike

[Skylizard]

Not true Mike, ****** (leaving his name out) who DJs a lot up north has guessed DJ'd at Slimes a few times, was booked and asked to play Noize,Dark electro (top floor stuff) but when he got there they told him to play goth and middle floor stuff, all of which he hadn't brought music for......

OK,well this is news to me.

But it further proves my point against Guy that blaming the DJ is possibly not the best idea.......

Rivetmike

The in house or slimelight regular DJs should know better .... (in Guys defence)

[Rivetmike]

The in house or slimelight regular DJs should know better .... (in Guys defence)[/quote]

I don't think that Panic would fall into either of those two categories.....

Rivetmike

[untermensch]

I've been trying to persuade him to take to playing two sets in a night again as I really miss dancing to them!

I'm gagging for a few chances to hear Mak play again. I haven't heard him DJ since maybe 2003, largely because my better half is always wanting to leave at around 4-5am. I only hear good things about his sets!

[Blink]

I knew the drug thing was going to come up!!!

Was expecting it at some point...



Sorry, let me expanded my point.

Some DJ's just don't like being hassled by anyone with requests, whether they be drunk/drugged/straight/clever/stupid/opinionated/ignorant/nice/evil or any other type of person!!

I certainly wasn't saying it was just because of the drugs that people ask for crappy music and annoy DJ's

[snoww_wwhite]

As Mike says, they are employed to play their style of music. (wow, I wrote that as Mike was writing his post above!! You is on my wavelength sir)


who knows why he is employed but employed is the keyword.

SURELY an employee in the service sector will be told by the customers if they provide a service which is below expectations.

so i have!

if they go on and take the piss then obviously its time to complain more ...to the management, the newspaper or the message board

lets not forget that DJs are not demi gods which have supernatural powers, lets not forget that they are payed with the money we hand in at the door for oh yes a SERVICE!
the very service which the club advertises:


The Slimelight is London's longest running alternative club dealing in industrial, power-noise, cyber-synth, ebm, cyber-goth, darkwave, trad + modern goth, plus crossover and related alternative sounds.



am i mistaken or does it name INDUSTRIAL and POWERNOISE first?

so, have i got a right to ask for "a bit harder music" while the electroclash was playing?

i was not being rude to Nick, i think he got defensive which was neither my intention nor called for.

he also told me that he was waiting for Mak, obviously there had been a mix up in terms of how long he was on for. though i felt when his set went on and on and turned futurepop that i wanted to go up to him once more and ask him if he was taking the piss... to which he nodded...

nothing to do with education of the masses, nothing to do with playing the type of music he felt would be good for the guests, it was childish if you ask me.



Would you go up to a band and tell them what songs to play in their set?



excuse me, no you are trying to insult my intelligence

i am not even going to bother to answer to this... try harder mister!


Do you like being told how to do your job, by drugged up people?

And also remember that all these townies may also be going up and making requests, I find some DJ's, as a policy, to avoid being hassled by drunk/drugged punters, just tell everyone to fuck off

first thing you imply that i was drugged up... which i was not at the time, i was hoping for a bit more pounding music, i did leave it entirely up to him to say yes or no, i left it entirely up to him what tracks he would think were right, i had faith in the man.

he seemed to agree with the harder music and again when i asked him if he took the piss, he agreed as well...

i have also appologised about having chosen those words, i am sure i can be more lady like than that but at the time it somewhat burst out of me, because i was led to believe that he was agreeing with me and i had made a very very careful request, not at all have i demanded or told him to play anything other than a vague description of what i felt would have gotten a better reception down on the dancefloor as it was not going too well at the time anyway.

also as i said above, he is employed to provide a service, well i mean i might have got it completely wrong here, i might got a totally wrong end of the stick but hell i dont think that DJs are more superstar than others.

maybe an injection to down to HQ would help occasionally?

if i pay at the door for a club that offers industrial and noise, then i do expect to hear for a big proportion of the time exacly that. non?


now it all would have been alright if he had treated me like a thinking humanoid freak and told me that his set would be until about this or that hour and that he is the electroclash DJ... honestly, that would have been all it needed, i would have fucked off home or do other things instead.

all i asked was being treated with a little bit of curtessy as i am a paying guest of the club. similarly, i do rarely request specific songs from DJs because i think they will know which song works, and what and when... its rare that i ask at all.

like Loki for instance, i asked for some music and he said that he would not play it as he felt it did not suit his set... i never argued, i felt he was right. i might be moaning a lot to my friends about the music but generally i dont bother people who do their job (DJ) at the time.

[Rivetmike]

SURELY an employee in the service sector will be told by the customers if they provide a service which is below expectations.

so i have!

if they go on and take the piss then obviously its time to complain more ...to the management, the newspaper or the message board

The employeee would then refer you to the managemnt if you had a specific problem.Then the management would determine who was in the right.Their employee or the customer.....


The Slimelight is London's longest running alternative club dealing in industrial, power-noise, cyber-synth, ebm, cyber-goth, darkwave, trad + modern goth, plus crossover and related alternative sounds.



am i mistaken or does it name INDUSTRIAL and POWERNOISE first?

It also lists "cyber-synth" thirdly which many could interpret as electro/electro-clash music.If you are going by prominence on that list (which is silly as I'm sure that the list is not in any specific order) "cyber-synth" does not get played as much as noise does anyway,would you argue with this?

I'll reiterate again.Noise fans have never had it so good at Slimelight.......

so, have i got a right to ask for "a bit harder music" while the electroclash was playing?

Possibly but ask the managment not the DJ who has been hired on their reputation,if the management do not want to speak to you then as far as I can see you have two options.Start up a new night out in competition or like the club as it is.

i was hoping for a bit more pounding music, i did leave it entirely up to him to say yes or no, i left it entirely up to him what tracks he would think were right, i had faith in the man.

OK so DJs not willing to take requests should have a "no requests" sign.Problem solved.


if i pay at the door for a club that offers industrial and noise, then i do expect to hear for a big proportion of the time exacly that. non?

We hear noise at least four times as much as we do the electroclash in question.Disagree?


Rivetmike

[Blink]

powers, lets not forget that they are payed with the money we hand in at the door for oh yes a SERVICE!
the very service which the club advertises:


I will address this point, and this point alone, as this is something that really annoys me, having worked in the service sector for 10 years.

People are not employed by the customer, their responsibility is no to the customer, it is to their employer It is their employer who pays their wages. If they fail to do what their employer asks them to do, they will face the sack. And at that point, will the customer pay their wages? No.

If the employer tells the employee he has to do something a certain way, the employee has to do it that way, or face a disciplinary. This is whether it is in the interest of the customer of not. If you are not happy with the service the employee offers, you need to take it up with the employer as it is not necessarily the employees fault, and if it is, the employer will take appropriate action.

This applies to any situation in life, not just this specific one. And trust me, the number of times I have had to do something that was "poor customer service" because it is what my employer wanted. And whenever you want to get good customer service, you will get a lot further by being nice.

This isn't aimed at Snowwy, just my general rant about people's attitude towards "customer service" and "my rights as a consumer", I haven't even read the rest of Snowwy's post

[Skylizard]

BLINK wrote

"This applies to any situation in life, not just this specific one. And trust me, the number of times I have had to do something that was "poor customer service" because it is what my employer wanted. And whenever you want to get good customer service, you will get a lot further by being nice. "

Sometimes that an excuse for just really been shit at your job...

[Skylizard]

RivetMike wrote


I'll reiterate again.Noise fans have never had it so good at Slimelight.......

Neither have the techno, Ibiza and gummy goths 8)

[SP]

One thing I could say about this place nine years ago was that every single Sunday morning there would be people moaning about the music. Well, it hasn't changed one bit. There's not enough of this ... there's too much of that ... they didn't play xyz.... whatever!

Snowwy says that a few weeks ago she had a brilliant night (lots of noise). If that's the case then what we are getting is variety of music. Myself, I consider us lucky to have such a variety of really fucking cool music ... the lot of it!!!

It's only a problem for the narrow minded, the people who only want one very narrow genre and nothing else.

Think about it!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I better go back to sleep in the corner with all the other wanker townies whilst you suuuper uuuber cool noize-headz sort this shit out & sack some DJs.

[Blink]

Sometimes that an excuse for just really been shit at your job...

True, but that is why you complain to the management and get them sacked.

The number of times I have had people say "I pay your wages, you should offer service", when, in fact, if I had done what they wanted, I would have got the sack!!

[Skylizard]

One thing I could say about this place nine years ago was that every single Sunday morning there would be people moaning about the music. Well, it hasn't changed one bit. There's not enough of this ... there's too much of that ... they didn't play xyz.... whatever!

Snowwy says that a few weeks ago she had a brilliant night (lots of noise). If that's the case then what we are getting is variety of music. Myself, I consider us lucky to have such a variety of really fucking cool music ... the lot of it!!!

It's only a problem for the narrow minded, the people who only want one very narrow genre and nothing else.

Think about it!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I better go back to sleep in the corner with all the other wanker townies whilst you suuuper uuuber cool noize-headz sort this shit out & sack some DJs.


LOL nice one SP, want us to tuck you in?

[SP]

LOL nice one SP, want us to tuck you in?

... and Horlicks?

[Skylizard]

LOL nice one SP, want us to tuck you in?

... and Horlicks?


En route.... :lol:

[snoww_wwhite]

One thing I could say about this place nine years ago was that every single Sunday morning there would be people moaning about the music. Well, it hasn't changed one bit. There's not enough of this ... there's too much of that ... they didn't play xyz.... whatever!

Snowwy says that a few weeks ago she had a brilliant night (lots of noise). If that's the case then what we are getting is variety of music. Myself, I consider us lucky to have such a variety of really fucking cool music ... the lot of it!!!

It's only a problem for the narrow minded, the people who only want one very narrow genre and nothing else.

Think about it!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I better go back to sleep in the corner with all the other wanker townies whilst you suuuper uuuber cool noize-headz sort this shit out & sack some DJs.

i dont sack Djs, i dont employ any either.. i pay my money, i dance, i am generally what i hope a good guest, sometimes to a lesser and mostly to a better degree.

i turn up early in the evening, i go home usually when it closes, i dance pretty much all though the night.

i said plenty of times that i like the cluba lot, i said thank you when it was particularly to my liking... so cruzify me.

its a bit weird to hear the opinion of a person who turns up for about 2 hours usually and stays about for 3 songs on the dancefloor (how you do that in THOSE shoes i dunno, you got my admirations)

i dont dictate, i requested... friendly at first, friendly hopefully most of the time.

i was told yes, i started to expect.

i voiced my opinion as much as i voice when iam happy

--- end of transmission ---

[Blink]

i was told yes, i started to expect.

the other great DJ trick, say "yes", and then completely ignore the request.

I find that annoying as well, but even during my short stint as a DJ (long long ago, in a galaxy far far away) you would get 2 people, straight after each other, asking for totally different types of music (but still within the venues remit), and you just couldn't keep them both happy, but it was easier to say "OK" than to try and explain to every person why you could/couldn't/wouldn't play a particular track.

A request list on the top floor might be a better idea, like they (ignore) on the middle floor

[Kite]

The thing I find most amusing with this thread is that most of the people responding don't even dance. Their idea of clubbing is drinking beer, talking all night long, and trolling the Slime forums :roll:

[Rivetmike]

The thing I find most amusing with this thread is that most of the people responding don't even dance. Their idea of clubbing is drinking beer, talking all night long, and trolling the Slime forums :roll:

The thing I find amusing is that some of the people who are replying to this thread consider themselves as an accuarate cross section of the clubs clientele and that they are the only people that matter.

Rivetmike

[Blink]

The thing I find most amusing with this thread is that most of the people responding don't even dance. Their idea of clubbing is drinking beer, talking all night long, and trolling the Slime forums :roll:

The thing I find amusing is that some of the people who are replying to this thread consider themselves as an accuarate cross section of the clubs clientele and that they are the only people that matter.

Rivetmike

The funny thing is...I fall into both categories!!!!

[Flux]

The thing I find most amusing about this thread is that there are people asleep in the wanking corner...that's a recipe for disaster that is :twisted: :twisted:

[panic]

How long you been going to slimes???????????

The first time I set my feet into Slimelight it was 10 years ago. Could not believe a place like that could still be running so long after the 80's.

Lots of Industrial/Noise still could be played but nothing is fucking perfect...[/

Agree but it's the Ibiza techno stuff we are complaing about at the moment.

We are actually complaining about a couple of sets played last saturday night. They were not Ibiza Techno stuff(even though I have never been to Ibiza). They were Electroclashy thingies... :|

Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden... :twisted:[/quote]

bloody hell, away for a day and you lot post 8 pages of it.

ok, let's see:

1. non of my set was electroclash

2. non of my set was 'ibiza techno stuff' (i don't have any)

3. most of you (probably all of you) don't know what 30% of my set was because they are white labels. whoever says otherwise is probably lying (i'm not trying to be exclusive, it's just plain truth)

4. management (mak) knows exactly what sort of music i am playing and hires me to play it. i used to play industrial / noise when i ran 'pure industrial' in the '90s. i moved on, i like to play new electro now.

5. the dancefloor was quiet when i played industrial (skinny puppy / laibach). then i thought (as any other dj would probably think) let's get them back with something i know they would come back to (covenant / ioc), then i played some noise because (and only because) i know mak would include in his set and he was dj-ing after me (i didn't want his set to sound too different, i do look out for my fellow djs).

6. electro i played actually sounds like ebm, if anyone is interested to hear it again i'll play it again (and again and again) at the slimelight, 17 torrens st, angel, london. (no, i will not be playing the same tracks, but the same style)

7. and finally, just for the record, i've been dj-ing at the slimes since 1999, i'm not a resident (i cannot attend every weekend), but i'm not a guest either.

[snoww_wwhite]

bloody hell, away for a day and you lot post 8 pages of it.

ok, let's see:

1. non of my set was electroclash

2. non of my set was 'ibiza techno stuff' (i don't have any)

3. most of you (probably all of you) don't know what 30% of my set was because they are white labels. whoever says otherwise is probably lying (i'm not trying to be exclusive, it's just plain truth)

4. management (mak) knows exactly what sort of music i am playing and hires me to play it. i used to play industrial / noise when i ran 'pure industrial' in the '90s. i moved on, i like to play new electro now.

5. the dancefloor was quiet when i played industrial (skinny puppy / laibach). then i thought (as any other dj would probably think) let's get them back with something i know they would come back to (covenant / ioc), then i played some noise because (and only because) i know mak would include in his set and he was dj-ing after me (i didn't want his set to sound too different, i do look out for my fellow djs).






oxia - reflexion
the hacker - radiation
kiko - italomatic [kiko & the hacker mix]

2. non of my set was 'ibiza techno stuff' (i don't have any)



Since his very first EP, released in 1995, Olivier Raymond, A.K.A Oxia, has been at the forefront of the French techno scene. With his friend The Hacker and their label Goodlife, Olivier has helped regenerate the sound of French productions. Whereas the majority of the first wave favoured dark and New Wave sounds, Olivier epitomises the Funk side of the movement: Hardgroove Techno, 100% Dancefloor

does this sound townie to you? it does to me...

lets see where they perform oh look:

Dates


# CLUBS

Loft club (GoodLife residence) Barcelona - Spain. Fabric London - England. Shine club Belfast - Irland. Fuse Brussel - Belgium. OTV Zagreb - Croatia. The End London - England. Womb Club Tokyo - Japan. The Orbit Leeds - England. Lov.e Club Sao Paulo - Brazil. Spin Porto Alegre - Brazil. Pacha Buenos Aires - Argentina. Muzik Curitiba - Brazil. Fashion club Londrina - Brazil. Metro Alicante - Spain. Zentra club Chicago - Usa. Rex Club Paris - France. Plastic Belgrade - Serbia. Sala Del Sel Girona - Spain. Electric City Dublin - Irland. Pressure at The Arche Glasgow - Scotland. Florida 135 Fraga - Spain. Barraca Valencia ÂÂ* Spain. Family Toledo - Spain. L'Usine Geneva - Swizerland. Kia-Aura Aberdeen - Scotland. Loft Lausane - Swizerland. Roschtefflager Zurich - Swizerland. Club Night Split - Croatia. Universal Dog Lahr - Germany. Bunk-Tek - Belgium. Centralino Turin - Italy. Mazzo Amsterdam - Netherlands. Le 4 Sans Bordeaux - France. K4 Ljubljana - Slovenie. Sound Station Liege - Belgium. Ultraschall München - Germany. Nitsa Apollo Barcelone - Spain. Equis Ponferrada - Spain. Piu Sabadel - Spain. Amnesia Ibiza - Spain. Terminal Export Nancy - France. Sala Pagoa San Sebastian - Spain. ESW Padova - Italy. Buenos Ares News - Argentina. L'An-fer Dijon - France. Cosmic /Millenium Girona - Spain. Universal Copera Grenada - Spain. Made in Brussel - Belgium. Spartacus Aix en provence - France. Palm beach Girona - Spain. La Villa Rouge Montpellier - France. Maxime (Global) Madrid - Spain. Doornroosje Nijmegen - Netherlands. Aurora club Croatia. Parkhaus Kenzingen - Germany. Clubmuc München - Germany. La Cova Barcelone - Spain. Batofar Paris - France. Access @ Cabaret Voltaire Edinghburg ÂÂ* Scotland. Traffic Padova ÂÂ* Italy. Venue Thessaloniki - Greece. Music Hall (urban Beat) Banja Luka ÂÂ* Bosnia. Octopus Pontevedra ÂÂ* Spain. Autoban Ekaterinburg - Russia. Gorod club Mosco - Russia. Club Lipa Sp.Pirnice (Ljubljana) - Slovenie. Metropolis Split - Croatia. Le Vertigo (Resident Reflex party) Grenoble - France...

why not visit them and their music at the Fabric, if youre keen, its only about 20 minutes walk from Slimelight...

not to mention the exposure they have oin other london clubs....

... so why bother at slimelight?



Telepopmusic - Smile

1. non of my set was electroclash

Dancerecords.com thinks its electro pop ...


http://www.dancerecords.com/recommendations.php?record_id=28903&SID=
» Telepopmusic Smile (Mr Negative/Headman Rmx) Capitol $10.99 Electro Pop, Vocal

they performed at the H2000 festival in Turkey:

http://www.geocities.com/bikem71/H2000P.html

looks townie to me... seriously


beyer & lenk ft. tiga - ananda



http://www.mute.com/ says:

Stockholm's Beyer and Dahlback go back over 10 years when they met on a train in '93 going to the Berlin Love Parade and within a year had set up a studio together.Now a decade on Adam Beyer is one of the most respected techno DJs and producers on the planet

and tour dates?

Adam Beyer DJ dates
26-Jul Cocoon, Amnesia, Ibiza, Spain
30-Jul Nature One, Germany
31-Jul Global Gathering, Stratford, UK
07-AugMillesime Festival, Bourdeaux, France
07-Aug Dance Valley, Holland
14-Aug Vulkana Beach Festival, Croatia
15-Aug Macedonia
21-Aug Liberty One, Germany
26-Aug Monday Bar Cruise, Stockholm, Sweden
28-Aug Fuse, Brussels, Belgium
03-Sep Traffic, Adelaide, Australia
04-Sep Transatalntic 5 @ QBH Melbourne, Australia
10-Sep Astrofunk @ Space, Sydney, Australia
11-Sep Digital @ Metro, Perth, Australia
17-Sep Tor 3, Dusseldorf, Germany
18-Sep Belgrade, Serbia
24-Sep Cocoon Club, Frankfurt, Germany
25-Sep U-MaticAthens, Greece

again, it sounds to me as if their music is played in townie and mainstram techno clubs, including IBIZA ...

do we need their music at Slimelight?


mysterymen - electromode


Here comes the second 12� of Newscastle based duo MYSTERYMEN, known for “they like it with a bit more rhythm and the machines getting funky�.


Their follow up single 'Electromode' takes no prisoners - sounding like Fisherspooners core gone critical, it created massive dancefloor hysteria, finding its way into trendy London clubs, such as 'Nag Nag Nag'. The flip, 'Your Best Friends', showing their lighter side, is catchy synth pop.


does it have a place at Slimelight if its played at trendy clubs?

if you love them so much, why not go to:

Mysterymen

Wed., 23th June 2004 Girona, E - La Sala del Cel (with The Hacker)
Fri., 25th June 2004 Barcelona, E - The Loft
Thur., 1st June 2004 Madrid, E - Mondo Club
Wed., 4th August 2004 London, UK - NagNagNag
Sat., 14th August 2004 Olganitz, D - Nachtdigital Festival
Fri., 20th August 2004 Erfurt, D - Antifa Gelände
Sat.y, 21st August 2004 Munich, D - Album Launch Party - Registratur
Sun., 22th August 2004 Feldkirch, A - Rauchklub / Sonarbar
Thur., 9th September 2004 Fribourg, CH - Fri-Son Club
Fri., 10th September 2004 Frankfurt, D - Atelier Frankfurt (Hohenstaufenstr. 27)
Sat., 20th November 2004 Glasgow, UK - Death Disco @ The Arches
Fri., 21st January 2005 Nottingham, UK - Sunglasses at Night @ The Social


oh bugger you missed them at the NagNag in london this year... maybe they will be back and playing at slimelgiht soon?


okay, should i go through the whole lot or have i given enough evidence to support my ranting about turning Slimelight upstairs into a townie club and that i think there are plenty of places who cater for that taste and hell, i went to raves before cos i was in th emood for some hard dance... but i never once demanded, asked, begged or whinged in order to hear it at slimelight... not once!

and i hoped i would get away from townies when i became a member of Slimelight :(

obviously my mistake.. sorry :(

[Blink]

Snowwy

i) I could find plenty of quotes on musicnonstop saying that things were "the latest dancefloor filler". That proves nothing.

ii) Do you really believe half of the blurb on record label/sales site? they always compare themselves to people they sound nothing like.

iii) Because a club is in Ibiza, does not mean it plays Ibiza techno, the same as any club from detroit does not necessarily play detroit techno, and any club in Chicago does not play Chicago house. "Ibiza techno" is a phrase made up to target songs such as Satisfaction, the more "generic" end of dance music.

iv) I have heard both Front 242 and Sheep On Drugs in "mainstream"* dance clubs, so should they too not be played at Slimelight. A good, hard, danceable song will cross over. *See point five.

v) There is a differnce between "mainstream" dance and "mainstream hard house/techno". Stuff such as Tiesto, Lab 4, Joey Beltram and some of the other dance/techno I have heard at Slimelight would not get played in a "mainstream" dance clubs.

vi) You are being very pedantic. (Any comments about pot and kettle are totally accepted)

[Rivetmike]

ok, let's see:

1. non of my set was electroclash

2. non of my set was 'ibiza techno stuff' (i don't have any)

3. most of you (probably all of you) don't know what 30% of my set was because they are white labels. whoever says otherwise is probably lying (i'm not trying to be exclusive, it's just plain truth)

4. management (mak) knows exactly what sort of music i am playing and hires me to play it. i used to play industrial / noise when i ran 'pure industrial' in the '90s. i moved on, i like to play new electro now.

5. the dancefloor was quiet when i played industrial (skinny puppy / laibach). then i thought (as any other dj would probably think) let's get them back with something i know they would come back to (covenant / ioc), then i played some noise because (and only because) i know mak would include in his set and he was dj-ing after me (i didn't want his set to sound too different, i do look out for my fellow djs).

6. electro i played actually sounds like ebm, if anyone is interested to hear it again i'll play it again (and again and again) at the slimelight, 17 torrens st, angel, london. (no, i will not be playing the same tracks, but the same style)

7. and finally, just for the record, i've been dj-ing at the slimes since 1999, i'm not a resident (i cannot attend every weekend), but i'm not a guest either.

Would you credit it? It looks as if Panic had agreed with most of my points (including the ones not up on this thread that I spoke privately with Snowwy about (the reasons for playing stuff like Covenant etc.).

Apologise for labelling your sets electroclash if they are not though.I thought that would be a pretty generic term for the kind of music you played.....

Rivetmike

[panic]

thanks mike, don't need to appologise for anything. i value your opinion (and everyone else's for that matter).

[Skylizard]

This is becoming very picky now, but i'll add fule to the fire as you, well more Blinky bells fire:

I could find plenty of quotes on musicnonstop saying that things were "the latest dancefloor filler". That proves nothing

Exactly so what's your point?


ii) Do you really believe half of the blurb on record label/sales site? they always compare themselves to people they sound nothing like.

Iif you a label is going to describe a bands music, what decsribe it as Techno if in fact its goth (for arguments sake) Surely if it's |Techno they label it as techno, destribute it as techno and sell it as techno.


iii) Because a club is in Ibiza, does not mean it plays Ibiza techno, the same as any club from detroit does not necessarily play detroit techno, and any club in Chicago does not play Chicago house. "Ibiza techno" is a phrase made up to target songs such as Satisfaction, the more "generic" end of dance music.

Snowwy research your choice in generic phrasing better next time, so you can nail down the bands correct style of playing, Blink just doesn't seem to get this generic term we all seem to be using.


iv) I have heard both Front 242 and Sheep On Drugs in "mainstream"* dance clubs, so should they too not be played at Slimelight. A good, hard, danceable song will cross over. *See point five.

We aren't talking about other clubs, and by this comparison you are suggesting that an alternative club like slimelight should play mainstream dance music, i think you seem to be missing the point of the thread, we don't want "mainstream" dance stuff at slimes.
v) There is a differnce between "mainstream" dance and "mainstream hard house/techno". Stuff such as Tiesto, Lab 4, Joey Beltram and some of the other dance/techno I have heard at Slimelight would not get played in a "mainstream" dance clubs.

You need to get out more, different clubs may well cater for different styles....ooops isn't this what this threads about, can't be, otherwise Blink would have just would have seen this is what the arguments about.

vi) You are being very pedantic. (Any comments about pot and kettle are totally accepted)

pedantic: marked by a narrow focus on or display of learning especially its trivial aspects


Who seems to have been very trivial now.


Sorry Blink but I think if someone who enjoys going to a club to listen to a particular brand\style of music has the right to moan about it, if they don't get it. There are more than enough metal, dance, hip hop, r&b clubs etc etc in london , yet how many actual aternative clubs like Slimelight do we have.

[SP]

Sorry Blink but I think if someone who enjoys going to a club to listen to a particular brand\style of music has the right to moan about it, if they don't get it. There are more than enough metal, dance, hip hop, r&b clubs etc etc in london , yet how many actual alternative clubs like Slimelight do we have.

Exactly ... it's an alternative club. It's not a f**kin' noise club ... and if you polled Slimelight's customers (19 yr olds, 46 yr olds & "so called" townies included), I think you'd find that they don't want Slimelight to be a noise club. The variety we get there is excellent. The club has never played one specific genre of music ... let's hope it stays that way!

Like I said, it's only a problem to the narrow minded (music-wise).

[Blink]

Lizard, the main thrust of my thread was

i) I think what some people call "Ibiza Techno" is very different to what other people call "Ibiza Techno".
ii) Yes there are a variety of clubs for a variety of styles, but also any one club can cover a variety of styles, and shouldn't limit itself by what styles it can play

and iii)

vi) You are being very pedantic. (Any comments about pot and kettle are totally accepted)

[color=blue]pedantic: marked by a narrow focus on or display of learning especially its trivial aspects


Who seems to have been very trivial now.



The phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" means someone who accuses someone else of something whilst being guilty of it themselves. I could also have put "stones and glass houses".

I was, with that, taking the piss out of myself, accepting the irony and duplicitousness of some of my replies, and generally trying to point out that, although many of the points in this thread are serious, maybe we should all lighten up a bit, and realise that the internet is no place to judge a person.

[Skylizard]

Lizard, the main thrust of my thread was

i) I think what some people call "Ibiza Techno" is very different to what other people call "Ibiza Techno".
ii) Yes there are a variety of clubs for a variety of styles, but also any one club can cover a variety of styles, and shouldn't limit itself by what styles it can play

and iii)

vi) You are being very pedantic. (Any comments about pot and kettle are totally accepted)

pedantic: marked by a narrow focus on or display of learning especially its trivial aspects


Who seems to have been very trivial now.



The phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" means someone who accuses someone else of something whilst being guilty of it themselves. I could also have put "stones and glass houses".

I was, with that, taking the piss out of myself, accepting the irony and duplicitousness of some of my replies, and generally trying to point out that, although many of the points in this thread are serious, maybe we should all lighten up a bit, and realise that the internet is no place to judge a person.



[color=red] I know, i was just picking on you :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: , we can discuss it over a beer next time at slimes :)

PS: You're buying :wink:

[Skylizard]

Sorry Blink but I think if someone who enjoys going to a club to listen to a particular brand\style of music has the right to moan about it, if they don't get it. There are more than enough metal, dance, hip hop, r&b clubs etc etc in london , yet how many actual alternative clubs like Slimelight do we have.

Exactly ... it's an alternative club. It's not a f**kin' noise club ... and if you polled Slimelight's customers (19 yr olds, 46 yr olds & "so called" townies included), I think you'd find that they don't want Slimelight to be a noise club. The variety we get there is excellent. The club has never played one specific genre of music ... let's hope it stays that way!

Like I said, it's only a problem to the narrow minded (music-wise).

But I havn't been pushing for more noize at all, or having one particular genre of music, my grievances has been with the level of level of "ibiza type music" . For those who know me my taste in music is very broad and I love most music , even some that i have a grievance against been played at slimelight, that's becasue there is a "place" in this case for everything, and slimelight is not that place for Ibiza style music.
I also enjoy the diversity in generes of music we get at slimes, that way yes it caters for everyone, and lets stick to that. Alternative music for an alternative crowd, so lets leave the other stuff for other clubs :)

PS; More Evil Noize please :)

[Blink]

I know, i was just picking on you :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: , we can discuss it over a beer next time at slimes :)

PS: You're buying :wink:

Busted :oops:

no worries, And I will even buy!!

[Guy13]

I know, i was just picking on you :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: , we can discuss it over a beer next time at slimes :)

PS: You're buying :wink:

Busted :oops:

no worries, And I will even buy!!

*hangs around looking thirsty*

What about me? :wink: :lol:

[alicethegoon]

i dont come to thgsi site much these days cuz when i do all you ppl seems to do is bitch an moan about the music, the dresscode, the other ppl going to teh club etc etc etc etc.

FOR FUCK SAKE PPL, ITS A CLUB! IF YOU REALLY DONT LIKE IT TAHTG MUCH DONT FUCKING GO!

you relaly think that by coming on here and pissong and moanign about it is going to solve anythig? think about how long this shit has been being complained aboutg and then think about how much youve changed things. now realise how much time of yor lives youve wasted arguing about it.

pathetic!

[Blink]

*hangs around looking thirsty*

What about me? :wink: :lol:

Do I look like a barman?

Would have to be after payday!!

[Rivetmike]

now realise how much time of yor lives youve wasted arguing about it.

pathetic!

Indeed,if it were my own time I'd be very upset ;)

Rivetmike

[Guy13]

*hangs around looking thirsty*

What about me? :wink: :lol:

Do I look like a barman?

Would have to be after payday!!

Hey! Bartender Blink! A Scrumpy Jack and black, please. :wink: :twisted:

[alicethegoon]

now realise how much time of yor lives youve wasted arguing about it.

pathetic!

Indeed,if it were my own time I'd be very upset ;)

Rivetmike

giggles

thats a bigt better.

[Skylizard]

i dont come to thgsi site much these days cuz when i do all you ppl seems to do is bitch an moan about the music, the dresscode, the other ppl going to teh club etc etc etc etc.

FOR FUCK SAKE PPL, ITS A CLUB! IF YOU REALLY DONT LIKE IT TAHTG MUCH DONT FUCKING GO!

you relaly think that by coming on here and pissong and moanign about it is going to solve anythig? think about how long this shit has been being complained aboutg and then think about how much youve changed things. now realise how much time of yor lives youve wasted arguing about it.

pathetic!

Whats pathetic is people like yourself not taking an interest, and just accepting the crap you get dealt.
If people didn't bitch and moan how would the Slimelight staff, and others knwo there is a problem. Hopefully through all the dribble , they see a good idea and say "lets try that" and impliment a change which is better for everyone at the club.
What have you changed by posting and wasting your own time,if you don't like what people talk about on the forums, THEN DON'T FUCKING VIEW THEM..

[Guy13]

* puts on body armour and makes for the bunker* 8O :wink:

[alicethegoon]

i dont come to thgsi site much these days cuz when i do all you ppl seems to do is bitch an moan about the music, the dresscode, the other ppl going to teh club etc etc etc etc.

FOR FUCK SAKE PPL, ITS A CLUB! IF YOU REALLY DONT LIKE IT TAHTG MUCH DONT FUCKING GO!

you relaly think that by coming on here and pissong and moanign about it is going to solve anythig? think about how long this shit has been being complained aboutg and then think about how much youve changed things. now realise how much time of yor lives youve wasted arguing about it.

pathetic!

Whats pathetic is people like yourself not taking an interest, and just accepting the crap you get dealt.
If people didn't bitch and moan how would the Slimelight staff, and others knwo there is a problem. Hopefully through all the dribble , they see a good idea and say "lets try that" and impliment a change which is better for everyone at the club.
What have you changed by posting and wasting your own time,if you don't like what people talk about on the forums, THEN DON'T FUCKING VIEW THEM..


how hypocritical of you skylizard. Correct me if im worng but wasnt it you that said;


Think you'll just have to except that this is the new trend for Slimelight, you know this has been talked about to death, but unless we are the DJ I don't see it changing, so as the paying customer we either accept it or we don't, my case I don't so don't go that often. I would rather be at home doing something else than be at Slimes totally pissed off becasue a DJ (not singling anyone out here Nick, there are others) chooses to play music that is much more suited for the average joe (townie ) club, that baering in mind Slimes is an alternative club.


I think you should think more befrore you post! Makes you look like less of a tit :P

Besides, i dont see a problem myself. the music at slimelight is fine. its within the scope of waht they advertise they play and the club is still mostly packed from what i underdstand?

[Skylizard]

Alice the goon, I guess in that response you trolled trough to find , you missed



so as the paying customer we either accept it or we don't, my case I don't so don't go that often.

which by your own words earlier I chose to do

IF YOU REALLY DONT LIKE IT TAHTG MUCH DONT FUCKING GO!

So whose the tit now......

[alicethegoon]

Alice the goon, I guess in that response you trolled trough to find , you missed



so as the paying customer we either accept it or we don't, my case I don't so don't go that often.

which by your own words earlier I chose to do

IF YOU REALLY DONT LIKE IT TAHTG MUCH DONT FUCKING GO!

So whose the tit now......

giggles, oooh ur fiesty! i liek it!
i dont usually go for guys but maybe ill let you 0wn me just this once ;)

I know YOU dont go. you have more sense than to go to a place where they play music that seems to just piss you off. What i was saying is that perhaps more ppl that just complain all the time shoudl follow ur example?


It wouldnt be so bad if the points were totally valid but ive takled to ppl that were there alst week and this "ibiza techno" or whateevr ur calling it, is just like teh music thats always been played in sleims, just more uptodate tracks. like i said, there really is no problem.

[Skylizard]

Alice the people here know me, and i'm well fiesty but at the end of the day i just get along with everyone, okay maybe not everyone , that tit AJstyles and his mates spring to mind.
I, like others just hope that some of the staff would actually discuss amongst themselves and management what people actually bitch about on the forums, as it usually ends up been about the same things over and over again. ne day, maybe one day we will have the Etopia club that we all long for........
:wink:

[pamdora2000]

How long you been going to slimes???????????

The first time I set my feet into Slimelight it was 10 years ago. Could not believe a place like that could still be running so long after the 80's.
Agree but it's the Ibiza techno stuff we are complaing about at the moment.

We are actually complaining about a couple of sets played last saturday night. They were not Ibiza Techno stuff(even though I have never been to Ibiza). They were Electroclashy thingies... :|

Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden... :twisted:

bloody hell, away for a day and you lot post 8 pages of it.

ok, let's see:

1. non of my set was electroclash

Electroclash, Futurepop, Electro... I just tried to find a name the closest I could for the style of music you played for the whole two sets nearly which leaves me frankly cold because I find it lacks of feeling and does not communicate much...
4. management (mak) knows exactly what sort of music i am playing and hires me to play it. i used to play industrial / noise when i ran 'pure industrial' in the '90s. i moved on, i like to play new electro now.
I can see that you moved on, but I do not see that it is Slimelight music you play any longer even considering the wonderful fact that the choice of music in Slimelight is quite extensive... And yes, I know that Mak knows what you will play and therefore hires you accordingly.

5. the dancefloor was quiet when i played industrial (skinny puppy / laibach). then i thought (as any other dj would probably think) let's get them back with something i know they would come back to (covenant / ioc), then i played some noise because (and only because) i know mak would include in his set and he was dj-ing after me (i didn't want his set to sound too different, i do look out for my fellow djs).

I owe you an apology(well two, the second will come later...). I think I got a bit carried away by saying that you were taking the piss by playing tracks that Mak would play... And I am refering here to the end of your second set.

But why play those tracks???

I do know you have a good selection to offer very different from what you offered on saturday, very different from what Mak plays, why not use it????

Sorry I did believe you were taking the piss because I certainly feel that you can do better...

A suggestion maybe would be that if you wish to introduce this sort of music to Slimelight, maybe you could do it in little doses first and see what happens. Or if you (or the management) don't care about what happens it would make people maybe accept it better if it is introduced that way, little by little...

7. and finally, just for the record, i've been dj-ing at the slimes since 1999, i'm not a resident (i cannot attend every weekend), but i'm not a guest either.

I know you have been DJing at Slimes for quite a while and I have come to you to thank you some times for your selection of music. Oh, yes!! I certainly have indeed!!! Thank you again from here from those particular nights...

Now my second apology come here for the unfortunate jokey comment
"Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden...". I did not intend to call anyone a wanker (however wanking is not a bad thing, it does not make you deaf!! Slimelight does make you deaf...!! :P ) but it seems that people took it personally. The music you played did remind me of TG kind of music and I do not go to TG mainly for the music selection.

So sorry again. Actually I always found you quite a sweet person even if I never talked to you too much...(Remember I am very shy...)

I feel very guilty now... :?

[pamdora2000]

i dont come to thgsi site much these days cuz when i do all you ppl seems to do is bitch an moan about the music, the dresscode, the other ppl going to teh club etc etc etc etc.

FOR FUCK SAKE PPL, ITS A CLUB! IF YOU REALLY DONT LIKE IT TAHTG MUCH DONT FUCKING GO!

you relaly think that by coming on here and pissong and moanign about it is going to solve anythig? think about how long this shit has been being complained aboutg and then think about how much youve changed things. now realise how much time of yor lives youve wasted arguing about it.

pathetic!

If you do not like this forum or this thread, why bother reading through 8-9 pages of it. Why even being a member of the site...??Maybe you should "waste" your time some other way and leave people express what they want...

[Rivetmike]

Electroclash, Futurepop, Electro... I just tried to find a name the closest I could for the style of music you played for the whole two sets nearly which leaves me frankly cold because I find it lacks of feeling and does not communicate much...

That's exactly why I like it.The coldness of it all......


Now my second apology come here for the unfortunate jokey comment
"Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden...". I did not intend to call anyone a wanker (however wanking is not a bad thing, it does not make you deaf!! Slimelight does make you deaf...!! :P ) but it seems that people took it personally.

No way did anyone take that personally :).Anyway I thought wanking made you blind not deaf (I have always thought just until I needed glasses......;))

Rivetmike

[Blink]

I owe you an apology(well two, the second will come later...). I think I got a bit carried away by saying that you were taking the piss by playing tracks that Mak would play... And I am refering here to the end of your second set.

But why play those tracks???



That is a DJ thing, you start bringing the end of your set inline with the person who is coming on so that

a) They can mix there first track in easily with your last track
b) The punters don't get a sudden musical styles

So Panic was just doing a good DJ job by doing that



Now my second apology come here for the unfortunate jokey comment
"Electroclash makes me think of wankers club...Eg: Torture Garden...". I did not intend to call anyone a wanker (however wanking is not a bad thing, it does not make you deaf!! Slimelight does make you deaf...!! :P ) but it seems that people took it personally.


Any references I have made to it, are taken on board in the same way the comment was made.

:D :D

[alicethegoon]

i dont come to thgsi site much these days cuz when i do all you ppl seems to do is bitch an moan about the music, the dresscode, the other ppl going to teh club etc etc etc etc.

FOR FUCK SAKE PPL, ITS A CLUB! IF YOU REALLY DONT LIKE IT TAHTG MUCH DONT FUCKING GO!

you relaly think that by coming on here and pissong and moanign about it is going to solve anythig? think about how long this shit has been being complained aboutg and then think about how much youve changed things. now realise how much time of yor lives youve wasted arguing about it.

pathetic!

If you do not like this forum or this thread, why bother reading through 8-9 pages of it. Why even being a member of the site...??Maybe you should "waste" your time some other way and leave people express what they want...

Do you not see tho that by saying that you are telling me I should not express what I want to? hypocrite! tell you what...ill leave this forum if you agree dont go to slimelight again. we have a deal?

didnt think so. silly girl.

[pamdora2000]

i dont come to thgsi site much these days cuz when i do all you ppl seems to do is bitch an moan about the music, the dresscode, the other ppl going to teh club etc etc etc etc.

FOR FUCK SAKE PPL, ITS A CLUB! IF YOU REALLY DONT LIKE IT TAHTG MUCH DONT FUCKING GO!

you relaly think that by coming on here and pissong and moanign about it is going to solve anythig? think about how long this shit has been being complained aboutg and then think about how much youve changed things. now realise how much time of yor lives youve wasted arguing about it.

pathetic!

If you do not like this forum or this thread, why bother reading through 8-9 pages of it. Why even being a member of the site...??Maybe you should "waste" your time some other way and leave people express what they want...

Do you not see tho that by saying that you are telling me I should not express what I want to? hypocrite! tell you what...ill leave this forum if you agree dont go to slimelight again. we have a deal?

didnt think so. silly girl.

I am not saying that you should not express it but by participating in the thread, you are wasting your time equally... See my point??

Keep on coming to the forum if you like. I am noone to tell you what to do, I can only suggest you that you do not read through some threads as it seems that it really winds you up and upset you much. Do not get to this point, just breath in and relax...

And yeah, I am a very silly little girl. You are totally spot on on that... :!:

[Skylizard]

I feel another organized oil wrestling match coming on, Alice and Pamdora, you 2 have the main event :) :):):):):)

[pamdora2000]

I feel another organized oil wrestling match coming on, Alice and Pamdora, you 2 have the main event :) :):):):):)

Nope, no oil wrestling match coming,...

Alice already "won"!!! :roll: :cry: :roll: :cry:

[Guy13]

No way did anyone take that personally :).Anyway I thought wanking made you blind not deaf (I have always thought just until I needed glasses......;))

Rivetmike

And there was me thinking that it gives you hair on the palms of your hands...that's why I get through 3 razors a day shaving the damn things. :twisted:

[Blink]

that's why I get through 3 razors a day shaving the damn things. :twisted:

And explains why you run out of razors before getting to your chin

[Alexander]

Boo. I got to this thread late. anyway, three things I'd like to mention.

1) Nick. "people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests". 99% of the time people are going to requests songs they know. Hence making a request and broadening your mind are mutually exclusive.

2) Skylizard/Pamdora. Stop posting in colours all the time. It's doing my fucking head in. It does not make you look interesting. If your words can't stand up for themselves without being written in crayon then don't write them.

3) The music at Slimelight is irrelevant. Hence discussing it is pointless. There will always be someone that will dance to anything that's played whether it "belongs" or not. Some DJs are good, some are crap, some play requests, some don't. All irrelevant! You'll get what you'll given and you'll like it! :wink:

[Skylizard]

[quote="Alexander"]Boo. I got to this thread late. anyway, three things I'd like to mention.



2) Skylizard/Pamdora. Stop posting in colours all the time. It's doing my fucking head in. It does not make you look interesting. If your words can't stand up for themselves without being written in crayon then don't write them.

quote]

NO , deal with it

[Guy13]

Boo. I got to this thread late. anyway, three things I'd like to mention.



2) Skylizard/Pamdora. Stop posting in colours all the time. It's doing my fucking head in. It does not make you look interesting. If your words can't stand up for themselves without being written in crayon then don't write them.



NO , deal with it

I like posting in colour... :twisted:

[pamdora2000]

3) The music at Slimelight is irrelevant. Hence discussing it is pointless. There will always be someone that will dance to anything that's played whether it "belongs" or not. Some DJs are good, some are crap, some play requests, some don't. All irrelevant! You'll get what you'll given and you'll like it! :wink:

Music is never irrelevant in Slimelight or elsewhere...

[CheapCopy]

1) Nick. "people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests". 99% of the time people are going to requests songs they know. Hence making a request and broadening your mind are mutually exclusive. ---> Bollocks!

[Skylizard]

1) Nick. "people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests". 99% of the time people are going to requests songs they know. Hence making a request and broadening your mind are mutually exclusive. ---> Bollocks!


Agree that's fucking stupid.
How can they request stuff if they don't know about, if the DJ hasn't opened their mind to new stuff how will they get to know about it, not everyone sits on the net trolling for new music. Some need to be educated, and this can be done by a DJ.

[SP]

1) Nick. "people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests". 99% of the time people are going to requests songs they know. Hence making a request and broadening your mind are mutually exclusive. ---> Bollocks!


Agree that's fucking stupid.
How can they request stuff if they don't know about, if the DJ hasn't opened their mind to new stuff how will they get to know about it, not everyone sits on the net trolling for new music. Some need to be educated, and this can be done by a DJ.

Yeah ... got to agree with you there Lizard ... If Alexander was right we'd be listening to nothing but eighties music!

[Skylizard]

1) Nick. "people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests". 99% of the time people are going to requests songs they know. Hence making a request and broadening your mind are mutually exclusive. ---> Bollocks!


Agree that's fucking stupid.
How can they request stuff if they don't know about, if the DJ hasn't opened their mind to new stuff how will they get to know about it, not everyone sits on the net trolling for new music. Some need to be educated, and this can be done by a DJ.

Yeah ... got to agree with you there Lizard ... If Alexander was right we'd be listening to nothing but eighties music!

SP agreeing, i'm going to book mark this because it's a rarity :) :) :)

[snoww_wwhite]

1) Nick. "people do not want their minds broaden, judging by their requests". 99% of the time people are going to requests songs they know. Hence making a request and broadening your mind are mutually exclusive. ---> Bollocks!


Agree that's fucking stupid.
How can they request stuff if they don't know about, if the DJ hasn't opened their mind to new stuff how will they get to know about it, not everyone sits on the net trolling for new music. Some need to be educated, and this can be done by a DJ.

Yeah ... got to agree with you there Lizard ... If Alexander was right we'd be listening to nothing but eighties music!

well i think not many object to being introduced to stuff by Djs, its not a bad thing, it can be an eye opener and lead to much new tunage (as the kids say ;) ) but sometimes a little less could be a little more, especially if its something as close to people's emotions as music.

[Magog]

Re. Nick's response - quite right too!

Any DJ willing to try new stuff in the club has my vote. Sometimes it will work, sometimes it wont, but unless they try you will never know.

I think there's more than enough noise being played at the moment, & as there's little in the way of (good) new industrial music about, you have to go further afield.

I like about half the electro-clash stuff i hear; does that mean it shouldn't be played because i don't like the other half? If you don't like it, stay on the goth floor (the music hardly changes down there). "What should i expect on the Industrial floor?" - everything.

If Nick hadn't been trying some new stuff i'd never have caught that Mysterymen track - pure class.

[snoww_wwhite]

If you don't like it, stay on the goth floor (the music hardly changes down there). "What should i expect on the Industrial floor?" - everything.


iam not a goth, i do not listen to goth music (not in the last 10 years anymore)

i am however into industrial music - good industrial music. if you want techno go to fabric or mass or fridge.

[Skylizard]

"What should i expect on the Industrial floor?" - everything.



So "Industrial" is the new generic term for everything is it????

Little contradictory don't you think?

[snoww_wwhite]

"What should i expect on the Industrial floor?" - everything.



So "Industrial" is the new generic term for everything is it????

Little contradictory don't you think?

well said Skylizard.

trendy clubhits = industrial?

[Blink]

trendy clubhits = industrial?


Extreme Industrial
Euphoric Industrial
Euphoric funky industrial breakdown mixed by Anne Savage

I own them all

[Guy13]

trendy clubhits = industrial?


Extreme Industrial
Euphoric Industrial
Euphoric funky industrial breakdown mixed by Anne Savage

I own them all

I thought as much! :roll: :wink: :twisted:

[snoww_wwhite]

trendy clubhits = industrial?


Extreme Industrial
Euphoric Industrial
Euphoric funky industrial breakdown mixed by Anne Savage

I own them all

you are forgetting hard dance industrial by Shaf De Bass :)

and Nu NRG industrial by Paul Glazby

:D

[Guy13]

trendy clubhits = industrial?

That couldn't possibly be One Eyed Man, could it? :twisted: :wink:

[snoww_wwhite]

trendy clubhits = industrial?

That couldn't possibly be One Eyed Man, could it? :twisted: :wink:

not seen any TMO being on a playlist for a trendy club ... show me :)

[Guy13]

trendy clubhits = industrial?

That couldn't possibly be One Eyed Man, could it? :twisted: :wink:

not seen any TMO being on a playlist for a trendy club ... show me :)

I wouldn't be shocked, it's had so much play the last few years. :roll: 8O :lol: