Slimelight 22nd January

[Alexander]

Ok, so from the news...

Slimelight Club: 22nd January 2005
3 floor slime with a difference
industek floor/goth/ebm floor +
Rock / Alternative floor
open midnight til 4, playing the very best of rock, metal, goth, alternative and indiewith DJs Belle (Decadence/full tilt), Steve Bellamy and Lahannya (Slimelight)

Which confuses me.

Is it a 4 floor Slime or is one of the floors (the ebm floor?) going to be rock orientated for 4 hours? Or is it:

Industek Floor
Goth / EBM floor
Rock / Alternative floor

Isn't all that clear the way it's worded.

Damn good idea though. :)

[Blink]

I am guessing, by the way they say "3 - Floor with a difference" that it will be 2 floor Slimes + Rock/Alternative floor.

I quite liked that Nils played quite a guitar based set last weekend

[Alexander]

I quite liked that Nils played quite a guitar based set last weekend

You mean a goth set? :P

[Blink]

[You mean a goth set? :P

Sorry I meant real guitar set :wink:

I E a bit more "metal" based.

[snoww_wwhite]

iam not impressed with the metal and rock idea and i was also not impressed with the lower floor music last week.

i think there are plenty of clubs that deal with that type of music as opposed to ebm and goth and noise based clubs.

also i did not like the fact that blue jeans and pink tops are allowed in either, i found there are too many townies on the top, who clearly dont know how to not take the piss out of regular slimlight people.

[darkmogwai]

I sincerely hope that no townies find their way to the top floor this weekend... If they do, they're likely to ruin the only Slimes I can afford for the next month :(

[snoww_wwhite]

I sincerely hope that no townies find their way to the top floor this weekend... If they do, they're likely to ruin the only Slimes I can afford for the next month :(


oookay mister mogwai, we just need to put out most evilstest uniforms on, put the teutonic stare onto our faces, heads up.. STOMP!!!! lets stomp them into oblivion :)

[Blink]

i think there are plenty of clubs that deal with that type of music as opposed to ebm and goth and noise based clubs.

Are you not allowed to like both then? Do they have to be held in separate venues?

The music I was refering to was in the NIN/PWEI/White Zombie vein.

(NOt that I like WZ, BTW)

[darkmogwai]

(NOt that I like WZ, BTW)

Why?? Nowt wrong with WZ :D

I personally plan on looking as evil as possible. It may be that I can scare the majority of normal people away.*





*This is unlikely.

[Sin-RazorAngel]

you know what you need...
PIRATES!!!!!!
MUTINY!!!!!!!
ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH

[Blink]

Why?? Nowt wrong with WZ :D


*shrugs* Just don't like their/his guitar/vocal sound. *shrugs*

I am actually gutted about this as it meant I inadvertantly missed Stabbing Westward when they toured with them!

[snoww_wwhite]

i think there are plenty of clubs that deal with that type of music as opposed to ebm and goth and noise based clubs.

Are you not allowed to like both then? Do they have to be held in separate venues?

The music I was refering to was in the NIN/PWEI/White Zombie vein.

(NOt that I like WZ, BTW)

well i think its harder to find a club thst caters for the traditional industrial taste, whoch of cours eis often enough guitar base music than for the metal and rock type of person... yes a lot of people who easily fit into the goth scene like to go to rock and metal clubs and yes youre entitled to like whtever you wish but its not nessessary to bring rock and metal to slimelight i think, as there are plenty of clubs who happily play that type of music.

the same goes for trance, psytrance and techno if you ask me, as there is plenty of townie clubs.... iam simply thinking aloud and that cannot be bad can it?
_______________________________
DEATH TO ALL FANATICS!!! :P

[snoww_wwhite]

you know what you need...
PIRATES!!!!!!
MUTINY!!!!!!!
ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH

and NOIIIIISE

[Blink]

_______________________________
DEATH TO ALL FANATICS!!! :P

Think aloud is allowed.

I know there are plenty of clubs that cater for said music, but I don't see why some of it cannot be brought into the Slimelight fold, it isn't as if the rock is being put on at the expense of one of the "traditional" floors, it is being put on in addition to it.

Whether they could put the floor to better uses is another matter.

And death to all fanatics...does that include glowstick/noise fanatics?

:wink:

[snoww_wwhite]

_______________________________
DEATH TO ALL FANATICS!!! :P

Think aloud is allowed.

I know there are plenty of clubs that cater for said music, but I don't see why some of it cannot be brought into the Slimelight fold, it isn't as if the rock is being put on at the expense of one of the "traditional" floors, it is being put on in addition to it.

Whether they could put the floor to better uses is another matter.

And death to all fanatics...does that include glowstick/noise fanatics?

:wink:

i well you see i thought the rock was instead of the tradfloor and the trad was crammed in with ebm again, which often causes frustration on both sides, the trad goth and ebm crowd.

about the glowstick thing... in case you havent seen me for a while, glowstickling has vanished, i got bored with it.... i sometimes do a bit of glowy fingernail stuff but not much anymore, i much rather stomp at the moment... which might change to tutu and ballerina style dancing in a moment....
... who knows ;)

and death to all fanatics applies to all fanatics apart from me and my friends of course you silly billy!

[snoww_wwhite]

_______________________________
DEATH TO ALL FANATICS!!! :P

Think aloud is allowed.

I know there are plenty of clubs that cater for said music, but I don't see why some of it cannot be brought into the Slimelight fold, it isn't as if the rock is being put on at the expense of one of the "traditional" floors, it is being put on in addition to it.

Whether they could put the floor to better uses is another matter.

And death to all fanatics...does that include glowstick/noise fanatics?

:wink:

i well you see i thought the rock was instead of the tradfloor and the trad was crammed in with ebm again, which often causes frustration on both sides, the trad goth and ebm crowd.

about the glowstick thing... in case you havent seen me for a while, glowstickling has vanished, i got bored with it.... i sometimes do a bit of glowy fingernail stuff but not much anymore, i much rather stomp at the moment... which might change to tutu and ballerina style dancing in a moment....
... who knows ;)

and death to all fanatics applies to all fanatics apart from me and my friends of course you silly billy!

http://www.stickergiant.com/Merchant2/imgs/b5380.gif

[Blink]

I am guessing that it is just going to be a normal slimelight, with a rock floor bolted on to the bottom.

And it must be said, you seem to have lost the glowsticks.

Haven't taken any out with me in about a year now 8O

I guess I will have to try and make sure I am your friend before you start spreading your death

[snoww_wwhite]

I guess I will have to try and make sure I am your friend before you start spreading your death


hehehe yeah i take bribes :)

http://www.free-graphics.com/backgrounds/misc/money.jpg

[SP]

i think there are plenty of clubs that deal with that type of music as opposed to ebm and goth and noise based clubs.
Yeah, but Mak has a real soft spot for the "rock fraternity".


also i did not like the fact that blue jeans and pink tops are allowed in either, i found there are too many townies on the top, who clearly dont know how to not take the piss out of regular slimlight people.
This is interesting ... last week my mate Jake was there wearing a pair of beige combats & pinky red (or could have been blue) top. He's probably one of the townies that you refer to. The week before, after being repeated bashed into by a tall goth on the goth floor, Jake threw the chap sprawling. Now, this goth then complained to Ossie (security). The final outcome was that the goth chap was given a warning!! ...... You see Jake has been a Slime regular on and off for about eighteen years. He usually makes an effort to dress in black, but on this occassion he had been somewhere else first, so he was just wearing "street clothes" .... but he's a great guy whom I have known since I first started going. Unfortunately, people judge him by what he wears, even though he can pretty much get away with wearing what he likes.

Moral: Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups!

[snoww_wwhite]

i think there are plenty of clubs that deal with that type of music as opposed to ebm and goth and noise based clubs.
Yeah, but Mak has a real soft spot for the "rock fraternity".


also i did not like the fact that blue jeans and pink tops are allowed in either, i found there are too many townies on the top, who clearly dont know how to not take the piss out of regular slimlight people.
This is interesting ... last week my mate Jake was there wearing a pair of beige combats & pinky red (or could have been blue) top. He's probably one of the townies that you refer to. The week before, after being repeated bashed into by a tall goth on the goth floor, Jake threw the chap sprawling. Now, this goth then complained to Ossie (security). The final outcome was that the goth chap was given a warning!! ...... You see Jake has been a Slime regular on and off for about eighteen years. He usually makes an effort to dress in black, but on this occassion he had been somewhere else first, so he was just wearing "street clothes" .... but he's a great guy whom I have known since I first started going. Unfortunately, people judge him by what he wears, even though he can pretty much get away with wearing what he likes.

Moral: Assumption is the mother of all fuck-ups!

see m'dear i dont mind the people who dont bother me... what bothers me and i bet its not easy for you to see as youre rarely there at a normal clubbing time... those who take the piss, dance all over you or try to pick me up there.

also, i wouldnt be picked up by any guy with beige, pink or blue combat trousers, apart from the fact that i dont want to be picked up at all. but if i would be then definetly not beige combats, or blue jeans or pinks whatsits.

if people obviously enjoy the music, dont demand yet more townie music and generally have a good time that doesnt involve getting on everyone's nerves then why not....

and no, it was a group of girls who clearly did not know what the fuck to do there but stand ON the dancefloor. also i get bothered by some townie bloke almost every weekend.. not the same one, alway a different one who seems to think that i must be his personal challenge for the evening.


future slimelight vision:
http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/resources/2153.2170.campusviews-uniondancing.jpg

[Alexander]

iam not impressed with the metal and rock idea and i was also not impressed with the lower floor music last week.

i think there are plenty of clubs that deal with that type of music as opposed to ebm and goth and noise based clubs.

Oh the irony.

Because there are absolutely no clubs out there that play anything close to the pseudo house / techno / dance music played on the top floor! No way!

:P

Come downstairs and listen to some real alternative music for a change! It should be good, but you won't hear anything that's been on Top Of The Pops recently! :wink:

And what happened to appreciating other forms of music? You get your top floor every single week. Yet for one week we get a rock / metal floor and, surprise surprise, Snowwy complains that it isn't a dedicated noise floor. What a surprise. Oh yes. :P

Fact is, industrial / ebm/ noise / whatever is a lot closer to what gets played in towny dance clubs than proper goth / rock / metal. That's why the top floor attracts all the townies. You can't have your cake and eat it.

[untermensch]

Fact is, industrial / ebm/ noise / whatever is a lot closer to what gets played in towny dance clubs than proper goth / rock / metal. That's why the top floor attracts all the townies. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Of course, goth/rock/metal being so different to Limp Bizkit and Avril Levine, if you want to take that point of view :)

Top of the pops upstairs? Sure, we get guest DJs walking in and playing crap from time to time, but the worst the resident DJs get is a Tiesto, Benni Benassi or Ratty track now and then - and a few hard techno tracks when Gassmann is around (which, incidentally, works wonders for getting people on the floor and keeping them there). The rest consists of fairly esoteric stuff, the likes of which would be known by a crowd of people worldwide numbering in the range of 3-4 figures.

Care to cross reference some golden oldies from the middle floor with 80s chart toppers?

Been to Leipzig recently? The "upstairs" music gets one venue over the whole weekend, shared with a handful of other obscure genres, whereas the rest of the festival (goth, metal, rock, trad, neofolk) has at least 5 or 6 other venues in fulltime use.

No, sorry, the "upstairs" music is as far from the top of the pops as you can be while still maintaining a reasonable weekly crowd. Do some comparisons (http://www.googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=vnv+nation&q2=winterk%E4lte&B1=Make+ a+fight%21&compare=1&langue=us) online between the most established bands of each floor and see for yourself.

Everybody knows goth, metal and rock. I've never met someone personally while not at slimes or an industrial/noise festival who knew any of the "noise" or "industrial" bands I like - most people aren't even aware the genres (as we know them) exist.

To sum it up, I think your reasoning is wrong! Now don't misunderstand me here - I appreciate many bands from all these varied genres of music we're discussing. I don't feel elitist about any of them. Every genre, no matter how popular, has its elitist and obscure niches, and the extremists often try and make a point about how much better their music is. We're not talking about that...

We're talking about individuals who appear at Slimelight and look and act out of place. Why do they come there? How do they hear about it? I'm not sure. Why do they head straight to the top floor? Because it's fucking hard, fucking dancy music... many would say "drug" music. And drugs are becoming more popular with this particular cross section of the townie population. That's my theory anyway.

[untermensch]

Before you reply, I want to say: I know I've made some generalisations and such (dramatic license :D ) and this sort of a subject can rapidly snowball into something that rolls down the completely wrong mountain.

I suggest we face this off over a pint sometime, the bunch of us. Boozetalk brings light!

[Rivetmike]

GENRE FIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!! :roll:

Rivetmike


;)

[Blink]

and a few hard techno tracks when Gassmann is around (which, incidentally, works wonders for getting people on the floor and keeping them there).

I love it when Gassman is in a dancey mood, he plays some great tracks.

Top Of The Pops ?


Let's face it, we like popular music :twisted:

And Snowwy, I saw you dancing to Assemblage23 on the middle floor on NYE :P

[Sin-RazorAngel]

THE FIRST RULE OF GENRE FIGHT CLUB IS....
:lol:

[Noize_Gecko]

My 2 cents

HAving been in london for somewhat 9 odd years now and having seen other alternative clubs adopt this type of approach, if it becomes a regular thing, you can say goodbye to the Slimes as you know it.
It can be the next Sin City (Ex Ballroom) .
I won't be there thankgod.

[Guy13]

Oh the irony.

Because there are absolutely no clubs out there that play anything close to the pseudo house / techno / dance music played on the top floor! No way!

:P

Come downstairs and listen to some real alternative music for a change! It should be good, but you won't hear anything that's been on Top Of The Pops recently! :wink:

And what happened to appreciating other forms of music? You get your top floor every single week. Yet for one week we get a rock / metal floor and, surprise surprise, Snowwy complains that it isn't a dedicated noise floor. What a surprise. Oh yes. :P

Fact is, industrial / ebm/ noise / whatever is a lot closer to what gets played in towny dance clubs than proper goth / rock / metal. That's why the top floor attracts all the townies. You can't have your cake and eat it.

I'm sorry, but that is utter crap. There is a mile of difference between Industrial and house etc. That's like saying that the DJs shouldn't play guitar orientated goth because there are plenty of clubs that play Indie.

[Noize_Gecko]

My 2 cents

HAving been in london for somewhat 9 odd years now and having seen other alternative clubs adopt this type of approach, if it becomes a regular thing, you can say goodbye to the Slimes as you know it.
It can be the next Sin City (Ex Ballroom) .
I won't be there thankgod.

It's more alternative now than it was. Rex used to play much more mainstream stuff.

That's not saying much, still a hole , and still wouldn't go there.

[Flux]

[rant approaching]

Fuck it, let's screw the new shit & go back to playing old skool Industrial/EBM upstairs and Trad Goth & Punk downstairs!

Would you be happy then? No? Oh of course because there's no noise. So how did they get to playing the noise?...

Do you see?

Let's stop this whinging and just enjoy the fucking club ok? If you don't like it, don't go!

This discussion has gone NOWHERE over the last god knows how many months and to be perfectly frank it's all rather tedious...

[/rant over]

[Goblino]

Do you see?

*looks around & taps feet manically*

:twisted:

[Sin-RazorAngel]

tsk tsk clowns and pirates...pirates and clowns....what is slimelight coming to :wink:

[panzerfrau]

[rant approaching]

Fuck it, let's screw the new shit & go back to playing old skool Industrial/EBM upstairs and Trad Goth & Punk downstairs!

Would you be happy then? No? Oh of course because there's no noise. So how did they get to playing the noise?...

Do you see?

Let's stop this whinging and just enjoy the fucking club ok? If you don't like it, don't go!

This discussion has gone NOWHERE over the last god knows how many months and to be perfectly frank it's all rather tedious...

[/rant over]

*CLAPS*

enough with the geeks and pseudo-philosophers already! if you dont like it, dont go.

simple as ;)

[Sin-RazorAngel]

[rant approaching]

Fuck it, let's screw the new shit & go back to playing old skool Industrial/EBM upstairs and Trad Goth & Punk downstairs!

Would you be happy then? No? Oh of course because there's no noise. So how did they get to playing the noise?...

Do you see?

Let's stop this whinging and just enjoy the fucking club ok? If you don't like it, don't go!

This discussion has gone NOWHERE over the last god knows how many months and to be perfectly frank it's all rather tedious...

[/rant over]

*CLAPS*

enough with the geeks and pseudo-philosophers already! if you dont like it, dont go.

simple as ;)


Well said on both accounts....NUFF said...
NOW IF THERE'S ANY MORE TOYS BEING THROWN
I'LL BEING RUNNIN Y'ALL THROUGH

i'M THE ONLY DAMN PIRATE ROUND ERE AN I'LL SAY WHEN THERE'S FIGHTIN T'BE DONE D'ERE ME YE TOERAGS
:wink:

[snoww_wwhite]

GENRE FIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!! :roll:

Rivetmike


;)

youre on mista :P

[Noize_Gecko]

[rant approaching]

Fuck it, let's screw the new shit & go back to playing old skool Industrial/EBM upstairs and Trad Goth & Punk downstairs!

Would you be happy then? No? Oh of course because there's no noise. So how did they get to playing the noise?...

Do you see?

Let's stop this whinging and just enjoy the fucking club ok? If you don't like it, don't go!

This discussion has gone NOWHERE over the last god knows how many months and to be perfectly frank it's all rather tedious...

[/rant over]

Okay i feel like a little more antaginism, I'd love it to go back to how it was, Industrial genere covers Noise so yes we would get noise (to some degree at least.... do you see it??

I always winge, it my right on a forum about a club that i enjoy going to. If i don't feel I like something about it i'll voice my opinion.....yes thats right ...Opinion, which like assholes everyone has one.

Yes this has been disussed , argued and bitchfought over, but now there is a new element to it, isn't there? Rock, metal floor on a regular night....I don't think i need to remind you how well it worked, actually didn't when they had a seperate floor on a Friday night and tried to intergrate the metallers\rockers with the regular Slimelight crowd....especially the abuse the girls got.

So yes I would love to enjoy the fucking club as you put but it keeps been changed.......... And yes if i don't like I don't have to go , which on this occassion ...I WONT..........

Good thing I get the SLimelight letter so I can avoid all these types of evenings.........

PS: there had to be one....... If you don't like people whinging and voiceing there opinions, then don't read the fucking post and reply to it.

[Alexander]

Of course, goth/rock/metal being so different to Limp Bizkit and Avril Levine, if you want to take that point of view :)

I've been through the differences between popular/unpopular & mainstream/alternative in a previous thread already. Limp Bizkit is still an alternative band (Avril Levine is pushing it though). How do you know? Because somebody dressed in standard rock faire, such as a guy with long hair and a Limp Bizkit t-shirt, would look acceptable for Slimelight. On the other hand somebody dressed up in standard dance faire, such as a cropped haircut and pink shirt, would not.

Obviously there are exceptions though, and I appreciate that, but the point was that goth/rock/metal is for the most part always going to be alternative whilst dance music is always going to be mainstream. If you pick any classic metal act, Disturbed, Fear Factory or whoever - they are unarguably always going to be classed as alternative. If you pick any classic dance act, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy or whoever - they are unarguably always going to be classed as mainstream.

Quite frankly, the fact that you had to pull out Avril Levine and Limp Bizkit as examples just shows that you're clutching at straws as far as this argument goes. Consider the thicker end of the wedge next time.

This discussion has gone NOWHERE over the last god knows how many months and to be perfectly frank it's all rather tedious...

Actually, I've been saying that goth has more in common with rock/metal than dance music for the past few years. When the DJs at Slimelight ditched the trad goth and moved more in favour of dancier acts like VNV Nation and Covenant, I was one of the people that always felt this was wrong. As much as I like dance music (a hefty chunk of my music is dance and I've seen a lot of live dance acts over the years for the record), I never really considered it to be alternative.

Hence, I'm glad that Slimelight is getting a rock/metal floor if at least for a bit. It's about time imo. Clearly "the discussion" has gone somewhere finally.

enough with the geeks and pseudo-philosophers already! if you dont like it, dont go.

What kind of argument is that? That's like telling the protesters in America that if they don't like George Bush they should leave the country? Whatever happened to fighting for what you believe in regardless of the status quo? If you don't like something worth saving you should try and change it, not walk away from it. Fucking apathetic bunch. :P

[Goblino]

I think this forum needs a tweek,

You have the same arguement every week!

*taps feet manically*

[Alexander]

Same idiots every week. Myself included. :wink:

As Gecko said: "I always winge, it my right on a forum about a club that i enjoy going to."

[Blink]

On the other hand somebody dressed up in standard dance faire, such as a cropped haircut and pink shirt, would not.

Don't know what sort of dance clubs you go to, but I always find that at the clubs I go to, you see a lot of Cyberdog and Spank (sound like Slimelight, anyone?). Admittedly, it is a bit more UV orientated than at Slimes, but I think that is a good thing :twisted:

My guess is that Alexander goes onto the Funky House floors, and hangs out with all the "try hards", you know, all those twats you see with blonde-dyed "mohawks" in their hair. (No, Alexander, I am not calling you a twat, just people who take a normal hair cut and decide to bleach a streak in it). And yes, you will see pink shirts there *shudders*


If you pick any classic metal act, Disturbed, Fear Factory or whoever - they are unarguably always going to be classed as alternative.

If I remember my history right, "classic" metal will be Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. I think they would look pretty out of place at Slimelight.


And Sin, if this is my throwing my toys, then come and run me through with your TOY cutlass

:wink:


Peace Out everyone, and looking forward to partying hard at a "normal" 3 Floor on 5 Feb :lol:

[Blink]

If you pick any classic dance act, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy or whoever - they are unarguably always going to be classed as mainstream.

I would not class either Chemicals or Prodigy as mainstream, that is to confuse popularity with mainstream.

As LadyOfShalott has just pointed out to me, lots of people like bands such as The Cure and Depeche Mode, but you would not class them as mainstream.

Personally I think bands such as Limp Nesquick and Marilyn Madson (sic) have sold out and gone far more "mainstream" then the Cure and DM, but that is a whole other arguement.


[Alexander, I am not picking on you, you just post some great quotable comments, if you are out on the 5th, come and find me and I will buy you a beer]

[Sin-RazorAngel]

'Kin ell you lot....

I'm going to make a observation here.....
:o :o i know i know ...not my place being a secret blonde n all that but fuck ya.....

GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!

YOU KNOW WHAT.....

I'M MORE PIRATE THAN ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

*this broadcast was brought to you by i don't give a shit inc. sponsored by fuck you ltd.*
Please enjoying killing each other sensilbly
:wink:

[snoww_wwhite]

Same idiots every week. Myself included. :wink:

As Gecko said: "I always winge, it my right on a forum about a club that i enjoy going to."

i reserve the same right for me ... including my rants about the loos!

[Sin-RazorAngel]

And Sin, if this is my throwing my toys, then come and run me through with your TOY cutlass

:wink:


Peace Out everyone, and looking forward to partying hard at a "normal" 3 Floor on 5 Feb :lol:
Ahem i'll 'ave you know it was a toy sword....not a bloomin cutlass laddie....n anyway there's a breadknife 'ere with your name ALL over it ;)

[Alexander]

As LadyOfShalott has just pointed out to me, lots of people like bands such as The Cure and Depeche Mode, but you would not class them as mainstream.

Actually, whilst I think early Cure was quite goth (and hence mainstream) I think a lot of the latter stuff was just pop music with Robert Smith's vocals. With Depeche Mode I think they were always alternative (although the earlier stuff was very poppy) but as I've pointed out elsewhere, good music is popular, and that can include both alternative and mainstream music.

Of course now I'm indicating a difference between the terms pop music and popular, which there is imo, but never mind. :wink:

Alexander, I am not picking on you, you just post some great quotable comments, if you are out on the 5th, come and find me and I will buy you a beer

Now that I can't argue with. :)

[snoww_wwhite]

I've been through the differences between popular/unpopular & mainstream/alternative in a previous thread already. Limp Bizkit is still an alternative band (Avril Levine is pushing it though). How do you know? Because somebody dressed in standard rock faire, such as a guy with long hair and a Limp Bizkit t-shirt, would look acceptable for Slimelight. On the other hand somebody dressed up in standard dance faire, such as a cropped haircut and pink shirt, would not.

well it seems any kind of outfit is acceptable for slimelight at the moment...

i think last night somebody got the award for worst footwear

http://www.badshoe.com/Zurgs/BadShoe.gif

it looked a bit like that:

http://www.seatcoverspecialties.com/pictures/products/hi-low_boot_pink.jpg

fair enough if slimelight was not a club but a wintersports resort....

okay this is more like bitching but i do it so nicely! :P



Actually, I've been saying that goth has more in common with rock/metal than dance music for the past few years. When the DJs at Slimelight ditched the trad goth and moved more in favour of dancier acts like VNV Nation and Covenant, I was one of the people that always felt this was wrong. As much as I like dance music (a hefty chunk of my music is dance and I've seen a lot of live dance acts over the years for the record), I never really considered it to be alternative.



correction, futurepop is a washed down version of ebm and that has a whole lot more to do with goth than metal. also if you remember bands such as new order who were the new formed ex-joy division, who was the first band ever named as "goth" band, they introduced quite a heavy electronically carried dance music, which at the time entred mainstream as much as alternative charts IIRC

ebm as invented by ze tchermens was intended to be be realy hard yet dancey music and its branch offs are futurepop and trance (which are the same, though the goth version goes with mopey lyrics), including hard and psy and whatsit trance too, if i am not mistaken but i am by no means a genre expert.

[untermensch]

Because somebody dressed in standard rock faire, such as a guy with long hair and a Limp Bizkit t-shirt, would look acceptable for Slimelight.

Er, if you say so.

If you pick any classic metal act, Disturbed, Fear Factory or whoever - they are unarguably always going to be classed as alternative. If you pick any classic dance act, Chemical Brothers, Prodigy or whoever - they are unarguably always going to be classed as mainstream.

*cough*. Ok. You're telling me that mainstream dance acts are mainstream. Can anyone say "tautology"? Let me re-iterate what I said before. I'm going to use dictionary definitions and logical examples to show where your reasoning is simply wrong.

mainstream (adj): Representing the prevalent attitudes, values, and practices of a society or group

alternative (adj): existing or functioning outside the established system; also : different from the usual or conventional

I can walk down the street and within 2 minutes find someone who will recognise names like Fear Factory, Opeth, Morgion, Disturbed, Limp Bizkit, Tool, Samael, etc. Is metal mainstream? Well, everybody knows it exists. In most countries, it's not the prevalent genre, and therefore not mainstream. Go visit Finland or Norway (I've seen it for myself) and you will find that most young people listen to metal. It's mainstream there. The abovementioned bands are NOT "different from the usual or conventional" as far as the metal scene is concerned. They are "the prevalent attitudes, values, and practices of" the "society or group" of metal.

The metal scene may be alternative but when you listen to that music, you're listening to the same stuff as millions of other people.

What are the chances of me being able to find someone on the street who I can discuss music with like Imminent Starvation, Mono No Aware, Contaminant, Config.sys, Mimetic, Sonar, Greyhound, MS Gentur, Exclipsect, SaVaK, etc. Well? Those are our dance acts. Those are the bands we play every week upstairs, and sadly, they are known by only an extremely small minority of the dance music scene. I say sadly, because I believe the music to be good worthy of being appreciated by a larger audience.

Quite frankly, the fact that you had to pull out Avril Levine and Limp Bizkit as examples just shows that you're clutching at straws as far as this argument goes. Consider the thicker end of the wedge next time.

You make me laugh! My examples are the EXACT logical mirror of your argument. I USED those examples to show how futile and shallow your own argument is. They are not part of my argument at all. You have failed to address the hard, cold facts, figures and logic I have used.

Frankly, you're out of the loop as far as alternative dance music is concerned. This is made obvious by the fact that you use examples like The Prodigy, Chemical Brothers and VNV Nation as if they represent the type of music played upstairs.

Hence, I'm glad that Slimelight is getting a rock/metal floor if at least for a bit.

That's great, but there are still a hundred other places you can go to if you want to hear the music on a regular basis (see above definition of mainstream).

What kind of argument is that? That's like telling the protesters in America that if they don't like George Bush they should leave the country? Whatever happened to fighting for what you believe in regardless of the status quo? If you don't like something worth saving you should try and change it, not walk away from it. Fucking apathetic bunch. :P

Some of us are the bunch that oppose the losing of something unique that we have at Slimelight. We oppose the introduction of the core elements of a scene that is prevalent elsewhere, that many of us have been a part of in the past, but from which we have moved on. I hope I speak for the majority of people here when I say that we do not oppose goth, metal, rock, alternative, polka, line dancing, ballet, etc. We're just saying everything has a home, somewhere it belongs.

This discussion has been sidetracked by pointless issues. You want to tell us how metal is REALLY alternate, but our dance music isn't. Clearly every fact proves otherwise. And clearly, this is not the issue.

No, the issue here is whether we get to keep the truly unique character of the music we have on the "industek" (yucky name) floor at Slimelight. If the Slimelight audience grows to incorporate too many people who *expect* to hear metal at the club, be it because of a metal floor or whatever, we will be faced with the problem of malevolent attitudes towards the dance music and the participants. But as long as people walk in knowing they'll be hearing the music that Slimelight is currently known for, the balance is maintained.

[untermensch]

Same idiots every week. Myself included. :wink:


Not quite. This week, I am the new idiot :)

[fad]

Sheesh, all this just because Shiela has a b-day party once a year!!! I shudder to think what'll happen when you find out Slimes is going to be having a 'seventies disco' floor come February!!!

[Blink]

Slimes is going to be having a 'seventies disco' floor come February!!!

Bring it ON

[untermensch]

Sheesh, all this just because Shiela has a b-day party once a year!!! I shudder to think what'll happen when you find out Slimes is going to be having a 'seventies disco' floor come February!!!

Hah, no, not at all! I think it's good and fun to have something to break the monotony once in a while. Doing something like this only annually might actually be too infrequent.

Bring on all sorts of interesting events. They're great!

This whole music discussion was birthed not because of a birthday party, but because of the need to clarify why some people don't want Slimelight to lean too much towards metal, or towards other well established scenes which have homes elsewhere.

[Blink]

well established scenes which have homes elsewhere.

I find this part interesting, not because I think that Slimelight should alter its output, but I wonder why people think you should exclude a genre because it is catered for elsewhere. (Genuine question, not trying to provoke/elongate the arguement). I think that you (untermensch) covered it to a degree, saying that if you provide too much of a different genre, you can end up changing the demographic of the crowd.

Personally, I think that if a genre fits with the Slimelight ethos, it should not be excluded purely on the basis that it is catered for elsewhere.


[If we wanted to get really picky, could we not mention Sick and Twisted, and Strength Through Joy as being established "elsewhere" clubs (and I will fail to mention that these are only monthly :wink: )]

Maybe Slimelight could go 3-floor permenantly, with a rotating third floor

week 1 : Goth
week 2 : Noise
week 3 : Metal
week 4 : Techno/House/Trance (all of alternate/top-floor type)

and whenever there is a 5th week 70's Disco

[untermensch]

well established scenes which have homes elsewhere.

I find this part interesting, not because I think that Slimelight should alter its output, but I wonder why people think you should exclude a genre because it is catered for elsewhere.

Well, I genuinely have my doubts as to whether a metal crowd and an industrial/noise crowd could peacefully coexist on a weekly basis - not because I have a problem with any particular crowd, but because from experience I know that metal is ultimately more popular and I think the currently established demographic would be displaced somewhat. I think we all know hardcore metallers who go to Slimelight regularly - whether they like the music or not - but when they walk in they understand that their primary tastes aren't being catered for, and therefore they put up with what they hear :wink:

Maybe Slimelight could go 3-floor permenantly, with a rotating third floor

week 1 : Goth
week 2 : Noise
week 3 : Metal
week 4 : Techno/House/Trance (all of alternate/top-floor type)

and whenever there is a 5th week: 70's Disco

Not a bad idea in spirit. Week 2 is already reasonably well catered for upstairs. Week 4, though, is not quite accurate. There are elements of techno, house, and trance upstairs but this is a minority of the music. Yes, catering for that once a month isn't a bad idea but it exists separately from the upstairs crowd. There is currently enough people coming to the club to dance to neo-industrial/noise on the established weekly basis.

Replace week 2 with some more experimental electronic music - and then we're talking!

[Guy13]

Maybe Slimelight could go 3-floor permenantly, with a rotating third floor

week 1 : Goth
week 2 : Noise
week 3 : Metal
week 4 : Techno/House/Trance (all of alternate/top-floor type)

and whenever there is a 5th week 70's Disco

Now, now Blink. If we did that then we would be discriminating against those who go to the reggae club on the ground floor. :twisted: :wink:

[Blink]

Not a bad idea in spirit. Week 2 is already reasonably well catered for upstairs. Week 4, though, is not quite accurate. There are elements of techno, house, and trance upstairs but this is a minority of the music. Yes, catering for that once a month isn't a bad idea but it exists separately from the upstairs crowd. There is currently enough people coming to the club to dance to neo-industrial/noise on the established weekly basis.

Replace week 2 with some more experimental electronic music - and then we're talking!

I threw in the House/techno thing because that is my bag, and a few people I know. And as for the Noise, Snowwy thinks that there isn't enough

[snoww_wwhite]

Maybe Slimelight could go 3-floor permenantly, with a rotating third floor

week 1 : Goth
week 2 : Noise
week 3 : Metal
week 4 : Techno/House/Trance (all of alternate/top-floor type)

and whenever there is a 5th week 70's Disco

Now, now Blink. If we did that then we would be discriminating against those who go to the reggae club on the ground floor. :twisted: :wink:

and Jazz as it used to be totally underground... hey and what about detroit style rap/hip hop and whatever? i mean they are the underdogs of the society too... and also do not forget that there is people who like ALL do not discrimitate against them by forcing them to choose floors

tut, where is your open mind about music now?

oh and could we have a three floor gregoriant chants and minne songs special please?

:P

[untermensch]

I threw in the House/techno thing because that is my bag, and a few people I know
Lots of people quite enjoy it. That's why I reckon the Week 4 idea is not bad :)

And as for the Noise, Snowwy thinks that there isn't enough
Heaven forbid! :twisted:

[Sin-RazorAngel]

SO WITH SNOWWY

***THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH NOIZE DAMMIT******

[snoww_wwhite]

Not a bad idea in spirit. Week 2 is already reasonably well catered for upstairs. Week 4, though, is not quite accurate. There are elements of techno, house, and trance upstairs but this is a minority of the music. Yes, catering for that once a month isn't a bad idea but it exists separately from the upstairs crowd. There is currently enough people coming to the club to dance to neo-industrial/noise on the established weekly basis.


well, i think last saturday was a prime example of some good noise (though it was a tad too many all time favourites) but lots of techno!

the townies loved it though it leads to some frustration if its just techno for a long part of the night.

its not that i expect noise all night (though i can have hopes - non ? )

but after 4 hours of techno i had just reached the point where i had to escape the club anthem and run off to dance to suicide commando and the following futurepop stuff just to stop me from feeling the anger rise inside me.

if the DJs run out of ideas what to play in terms of industrial and noise, why not make a suggestion poll here?

also once again, i still feel that Francesca gets the mix between harsh industrial electronic and noise totally right and it would be nice to be able to hear more of that and a bit (no actually an awful lot) less techno

[Guy13]

Maybe Slimelight could go 3-floor permenantly, with a rotating third floor

week 1 : Goth
week 2 : Noise
week 3 : Metal
week 4 : Techno/House/Trance (all of alternate/top-floor type)

and whenever there is a 5th week 70's Disco

Now, now Blink. If we did that then we would be discriminating against those who go to the reggae club on the ground floor. :twisted: :wink:

What I actually meant was that Slimes isn't the only club to use Electrowerkz. A 3 floor every week isn't possible.

[Rivetmike]

If we wanted to get really picky, could we not mention Sick and Twisted, and Strength Through Joy as being established "elsewhere" clubs (and I will fail to mention that these are only monthly :wink: )

Someone say picky? ;) STJ is more of a retro EBM/Coldwave industrial (242,:W:,Leather Strip,Chemlab,KMFDM) mix and SnT leans more heavily on the breakbeat side of things.I don't think either of these clubs can be compared to what the upstairs floor at Slimelight currently play.

Rivetmike

[Guy13]

SO WITH SNOWWY

***THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH NOIZE DAMMIT******

I AGREE...MORE EEEVIL NOIZE!

and bring back Ren & Stimpy!

[snoww_wwhite]

Not a bad idea in spirit. Week 2 is already reasonably well catered for upstairs. Week 4, though, is not quite accurate. There are elements of techno, house, and trance upstairs but this is a minority of the music. Yes, catering for that once a month isn't a bad idea but it exists separately from the upstairs crowd. There is currently enough people coming to the club to dance to neo-industrial/noise on the established weekly basis.

Replace week 2 with some more experimental electronic music - and then we're talking!

I threw in the House/techno thing because that is my bag, and a few people I know. And as for the Noise, Snowwy thinks that there isn't enough

ah good job that people know now what i am thinking, saves me so much time. now what will i do with all the saved time? ah yeah, lets nag, whinge and argue :P

anyway Blink thanks for mind reading, i think i love noise very much, though i also love industrial electronic music just as much. also i have been known to enjoy the harsher ebm a lot... not surprising as i used to be really very much into ebm previous to time when noise entered my life.

though not what the germans call "Weiber EBM" which is of course future pop, which i liked several musical taste changes back ;)

which was the time when i finally decided that i was bored with trad goth ... oh and early electronic music, which is the area of music where i come from

... now all is revealed, lets start the day with somthing fluffy to listen to...

ah yes, Industriepalast to warm me up :P

[snoww_wwhite]

If we wanted to get really picky, could we not mention Sick and Twisted, and Strength Through Joy as being established "elsewhere" clubs (and I will fail to mention that these are only monthly :wink: )

Someone say picky? ;) STJ is more of a retro EBM/Coldwave industrial (242,:W:,Leather Strip,Chemlab,KMFDM) mix and SnT leans more heavily on the breakbeat side of things.I don't thinkk either of these clubs can be compared to what the upstairs floor at Slimelight currently play.

Rivetmike


no, they are totally different!!! it was mostly gabber as far as i could tell last time, which wss the first time for me... not sure if i would go again, too many townies and some hippy shitter kicking me

STJ is good stuff, i wish it was on a friday as i am always torn between the hope for some noise or old style industrial on that saturday...

dont give me choices dammit!!! ;)

[Rivetmike]

ah yes, Industriepalast to warm me up :P

Heh,I read that as "industrial pastie"

Rivetmike

[Blink]

Someone say picky? ;) STJ is more of a retro EBM/Coldwave industrial (242,:W:,Leather Strip,Chemlab,KMFDM) mix and SnT leans more heavily on the breakbeat side of things.I don't think either of these clubs can be compared to what the upstairs floor at Slimelight currently play.

Rivetmike

I blame my sources, having never been to either.

(Planning to change that in the next few months though)

[Rivetmike]

I blame my sources, having never been to either.

(Planning to change that in the next few months though)


From what I gather about STJ I think it'd be right up your street with as much guitar crossover stuff being played as the more traditional EBM sound.

Rivetmike

[untermensch]

ah yes, Industriepalast to warm me up :P
Heh,I read that as "industrial pastie"


Mmm, those succulent rivets and bolts, baked to crispy perfection! Just smell that steaming axel grease :D

[snoww_wwhite]

SO WITH SNOWWY

***THERE IS NEVER ENOUGH NOIZE DAMMIT******

I AGREE...MORE EEEVIL NOIZE!

and bring back Ren & Stimpy!

see you mopers and townies and metallers... we are crawling out of the woodwork and make your palaces crumble

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/AcousticalTest/IndustrialNoise/Main.htm

http://www.stmuk.bayern.de/blz/video/laerm.jpg

[snoww_wwhite]

ah yes, Industriepalast to warm me up :P
Heh,I read that as "industrial pastie"


Mmm, those succulent rivets and bolts, baked to crispy perfection! Just smell that steaming axel grease :D

garnished with solder... now for Xotox, just to keep me going til lunch.

yes Rivetmike, Xotox is much like OXO cubes ;)

(only more toxic ;) )

[Alexander]

ebm as invented by ze tchermens was intended to be be realy hard yet dancey music and its branch offs are futurepop and trance (which are the same, though the goth version goes with mopey lyrics), including hard and psy and whatsit trance too, if i am not mistaken but i am by no means a genre expert.

Well. I am. ;)

1) Technically the Belgians created EBM. Front 242 were the first to use the phrase in 1981.
2) FuturePop was a phrase which I think was first used by Eskil from Covenant. It is a silly phrase and shouldn't be used imo. I prefer Ibiza goth if anything.
3) Trance was not a spin off of EBM. It's roots come from Techno and House music. Whilst it's all "electronic music" it developed independently.

So there you go!

[snakelegs]

Agree , but what industlrial and noisy music need is quality promotion,especialy in England. and good thing on 22nd will be show them something what they never seen :-) And place some beatle to their brains :-) :idea:

[Rivetmike]

1) Technically the Belgians created EBM. Front 242 were the first to use the phrase in 1981.

Yes

FuturePop was a phrase which I think was first used by Eskil from Covenant. It is a silly phrase and shouldn't be used imo. I prefer Ibiza goth if anything.

No,coined by VNV.I too prefer ibiza goth as a term,just 'coz it's funny to imagine literally.

[quote="Alexander"]3) Trance was not a spin off of EBM. It's roots come from Techno and House music. Whilst it's all "electronic music" it developed independently.[quote]

Yes.EBM cannot claim responsibilty for other electronic genres.If anyone should be doing so then it should be Kraftwerk and noone else.

Rivetmike

[untermensch]

1) Technically the Belgians created EBM. Front 242 were the first to use the phrase in 1981.
2) FuturePop was a phrase which I think was first used by Eskil from Covenant. It is a silly phrase and shouldn't be used imo. I prefer Ibiza goth if anything.
3) Trance was not a spin off of EBM. It's roots come from Techno and House music. Whilst it's all "electronic music" it developed independently.

So there you go!

The man talks sense, although the ghastly futurepop label was coined by our own dear *cough* *spit* Ronan *hack* Harris (no offence, PhewchaPoppers - well, not much anyway :) )

In case some of you still somehow haven't seen this, check out Ishkur's Electronic Music Guide (http://www.di.fm/edmguide/). I wouldn't agree with everything Ishkur says but he is pretty much spot on with a lot of stuff! And he's been around longer than most, so I guess we have to repekt his authoritah

[snoww_wwhite]

[quote=Alexander]

1) Technically the Belgians created EBM. Front 242 were the first to use the phrase in 1981.

Yes

2) FuturePop was a phrase which I think was first used by Eskil from Covenant. It is a silly phrase and shouldn't be used imo. I prefer Ibiza goth if anything.

No,coined by VNV.I too prefer ibiza goth as a term,just 'coz it's funny too imagine literally.

3) Trance was not a spin off of EBM. It's roots come from Techno and House music. Whilst it's all "electronic music" it developed independently.[quote]

Yes.EBM cannot claim responsibilty for other electronic genres.If anyone should be doing so then it should be Kraftwerk and noone else.

Rivetmike

ah well, i did mean to write Synthpop anyway... which is the pre-run of the electronic dance music including ebm and trance AFAIK but iam getting bored with this, i stick to what i usually say in a situation like this:

i dont know much about music but i know what i like

[Flux]

2) FuturePop was a phrase which I think was first used by Eskil from Covenant. It is a silly phrase and shouldn't be used imo. I prefer Ibiza goth if anything.

No,coined by VNV. I too prefer ibiza goth as a term,just 'coz it's funny too imagine literally.



...And if you trace it back you'll find that the term Ibiza Goth was first used by me a good few years back (when "darkwave" went all fluffy in fact), to describe how cheesy-wank that music had become :P

[snoww_wwhite]

Agree , but what industlrial and noisy music need is quality promotion,especialy in England. and good thing on 22nd will be show them something what they never seen :-) And place some beatle to their brains :-) :idea:

what do you mean what month 22nd and why make it a mystery mister?

:)

besides there will be resistance on in march, do not fortget that... then also some of us noiseheads go to the countries over the big water in order to lsiten to the shrill and unearthly sounds of what we so lovingly call EEVIL NOIZE. so reveal it all, your secret is in safe hands! :P

[Goblino]

Give us more Circus Hardcore & Big Top Pop dammit!! :evil:

*stamps feet manically*

[Guy13]

Give us more Circus Hardcore & Big Top Pop dammit!! :evil:

*stamps feet manically*

Let me guess, you want to hear more ICP? :roll: :wink:

[Goblino]

Give us more Circus Hardcore & Big Top Pop dammit!! :evil:

*stamps feet manically*

Let me guess, you want to hear more ICP? :roll: :wink:

Hey, don't bring my bro (Milenko) into this! He's a bit of a nutter. Did I at any point mention clown rock?

*spins bow tie & plays with braces*

[Flux]

I think you need circus music with a bit of Gabba!

C'mon! :D

[Alexander]

Yes.EBM cannot claim responsibilty for other electronic genres.If anyone should be doing so then it should be Kraftwerk and noone else.

Luigi Russolo and the Futurists imo. Also the first Industrial / Noise artist. In fact, it's arguable that all modern electronic music is derived from his version of 'Noise'. ;)

[snoww_wwhite]

Give us more Circus Hardcore & Big Top Pop dammit!! :evil:

*stamps feet manically*

have you been to slimelight at all yet?

[Goblino]

Give us more Circus Hardcore & Big Top Pop dammit!! :evil:

*stamps feet manically*

have you been to slimelight at all yet?

Of course! What do you take me for? a clown?

[snoww_wwhite]

Give us more Circus Hardcore & Big Top Pop dammit!! :evil:

*stamps feet manically*

have you been to slimelight at all yet?

Of course! What do you take me for? a clown?

i jest you not! its a bit of a joke but the laughing matter is that i have not seen any clown at slimelight apart from a few dressed up townies who almost fucked each other on the dancefloor doing S&M style teasing weirdness .. but sadly neither in a sexy nor in any otherwise good way...

next time do not pull my leg but say hello and maybe laugh at me ;)

[Rivetmike]

Yes.EBM cannot claim responsibilty for other electronic genres.If anyone should be doing so then it should be Kraftwerk and noone else.

Luigi Russolo and the Futurists imo. Also the first Industrial / Noise artist. In fact, it's arguable that all modern electronic music is derived from his version of 'Noise'. ;)

Or we can go further back and say Stockhausen but that would just be me being difficult and obscure ;)

Rivetmike

[snoww_wwhite]

Yes.EBM cannot claim responsibilty for other electronic genres.If anyone should be doing so then it should be Kraftwerk and noone else.

Luigi Russolo and the Futurists imo. Also the first Industrial / Noise artist. In fact, it's arguable that all modern electronic music is derived from his version of 'Noise'. ;)

Or we can go further back and say Stockhausen but that would just be me being difficult and obscure ;)

Rivetmike

gowd that takes me back, a friend of mine wanted to drag me into a stockhausen performance when i was very very very young but i did not have any money, i spent it all on tobacco and drugs ;)

could we mention mike oldflied and tangerine dream too?

how about the can? i used to live about 2 minutes from the recording studio ;)

hrrrmmm i wanna mention Klaus Schultze as well.. just for the hell of it...

[darkmogwai]

As far as I'm concerned, Tangerine Dream were one of the major artists who made electronica what it is today. Ever tried comparing TG with Boards of Canada? Interestingly similar...

[Blink]

...And if you trace it back you'll find that the term Ibiza Goth was first used by me a good few years back (when "darkwave" went all fluffy in fact), to describe how cheesy-wank that music had become :P

And I believe I wore the first ever "Ibiza Goth" T-shirt on NYE 2004!

[snoww_wwhite]

...And if you trace it back you'll find that the term Ibiza Goth was first used by me a good few years back (when "darkwave" went all fluffy in fact), to describe how cheesy-wank that music had become :P

And I believe I wore the first ever "Ibiza Goth" T-shirt on NYE 2004!

its a funny term :D it was a funny t-shirt, even i sniggered at it a bit

but it doesn not excuse bad bad bad bad bad CLUB ANTHEMS being played upstairs at slimelight

please, dont do it again mista DJ!

[Guy13]

but it doesn not excuse bad bad bad bad bad CLUB ANTHEMS being played upstairs at slimelight

please, dont do it again mista DJ!

We will send in our team of crack elite mice with semtex strapped across their little chests to destroy the DJ area if we hear Satisfaction one more time! :twisted:

[untermensch]

We will send in our team of crack elite mice with semtex strapped across their little chests to destroy the DJ area if we hear Satisfaction one more time! :twisted:

That probably gets played twice a night. I'm going to pay very close attention to the CD decks and confiscate any CD which appears to contain this terrible track.

[snoww_wwhite]

but it doesn not excuse bad bad bad bad bad CLUB ANTHEMS being played upstairs at slimelight

please, dont do it again mista DJ!

We will send in our team of crack elite mice with semtex strapped across their little chests to destroy the DJ area if we hear Satisfaction one more time! :twisted:

nooo satisfaction is the 7:10 song that indicates, get your coats now before the cue starts... i dont mind that one ... but how about no more club trans anthems? i mean what was going on in mister unpredictable when he spun that one.. i even danced to the rap shite that played earlier but enough is enough i think!

[snoww_wwhite]

We will send in our team of crack elite mice with semtex strapped across their little chests to destroy the DJ area if we hear Satisfaction one more time! :twisted:

That probably gets played twice a night. I'm going to pay very close attention to the CD decks and confiscate any CD which appears to contain this terrible track.

while youre at it, keep looking out for: "NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL TRANCE 1994-2005" and "NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL PISSING OFF RIVETS 11PM - 7:30 AM" ;)

seriously i think mister unpredictable has had a funny day again, no slimelight is not IBIZA and its bad, wrong and frustrating and yes the townies liked it, all the others had left the sinking ship to find sanktuary downstairs...

[Guy13]

all the others had left the sinking ship to find sanktuary downstairs...

And that is a cruelty I wouldn't inflict on anyone let alone us rivets.

[SP]

Uwe plays it early on. Mak is the one that occasionally plays it during the last hour or so.

Guy, I hope you're not including me there ... I ain't no rivett!

[Guy13]

Uwe plays it early on. Mak is the one that occasionally plays it during the last hour or so.

Guy, I hope you're not including me there ... I ain't no rivett!

But you like the song...

[Rivetmike]

Uwe plays it early on. Mak is the one that occasionally plays it during the last hour or so.

Guy, I hope you're not including me there ... I ain't no rivett!

But you like the song...

So do I (in a cheesy fun way),and?

Rivetmike

[Guy13]

Uwe plays it early on. Mak is the one that occasionally plays it during the last hour or so.

Guy, I hope you're not including me there ... I ain't no rivett!

But you like the song...

So do I (in a cheesy fun way),and?

Rivetmike

*gasps* surely not? :wink:

It's a ghastly song.

[snoww_wwhite]

Uwe plays it early on. Mak is the one that occasionally plays it during the last hour or so.

Guy, I hope you're not including me there ... I ain't no rivett!

But you like the song...

So do I (in a cheesy fun way),and?

Rivetmike

i used to like it in a weird way but somehow the novelty has worn off a lot and after hearing it too much, i feel i cannot stand it anymore.. much the same goes for the known XPQ-21 songs ... at the minute its Neuroticfish, which i still like despite its cheesy quality, give me two weeks/months/hours and i shall be over it....

btw have you read the line up for WGT? ;)
http://www.vai.com/MANF/images/banner_manf.jpg

[Guy13]

all the others had left the sinking ship to find sanktuary downstairs...

And that is a cruelty I wouldn't inflict on anyone let alone us rivets.

It was actually a joke about making people go downstairs...Satisfaction isn't even mentioned in the post.

[Rivetmike]

*gasps* surely not? :wink:

It's a ghastly song.

Y'see I listen to all sorts of different genres Guy,it's a way to stay interested.

Sure I like dark EBM but listen to it all the time and there is only so much [distorted vocal]"HELL,DEATH,WAR,MAAAACHINE"[/distorted vocal] I can take.

Same with stuff like Satisfaction/Zombie Nation/Tomcraft I'd go mad if I heard it all the time but I can certainly tolerate it once a week.

Rivetmike

[untermensch]

Uwe plays it early on. Mak is the one that occasionally plays it during the last hour or so.

Guy, I hope you're not including me there ... I ain't no rivett!

Uwe has played it a handful of times ever. He doesn't like the track. Pete plays it all the time, along with most guest DJs. Then Mak... :)

[Rivetmike]

btw have you read the line up for WGT? ;)


Has it been recently updated?

*goes to look*

Ah Cama-Sotz (B) - - Das Ich (D) - Die Krupps (D) - Dive (B) - Greyhound (D) - - Kiew (D) - Mono No Aware (D) -- MS Gentur (D) - SHNARPH (D) - - Welle:Erdball (D) - Xotox (D) -

Well those are the eleven bands so far that interest me.

Rivetmike

[Guy13]

*gasps* surely not? :wink:

It's a ghastly song.

Y'see I listen to all sorts of different genres Guy,it's a way to stay interested.

Sure I like dark EBM but listen to it all the time and there is only so much [distorted vocal]"HELL,DEATH,WAR,MAAAACHINE"[/distorted vocal] I can take.

Same with stuff like Satisfaction/Zombie Nation/Tomcraft I'd go mad if I heard it all the time but I can certainly tolerate it once a week.

Rivetmike

I know, hence the :wink: . I'm known to listen to a bit of neo-folk now and again. :)

[Blink]

I know, hence the :wink: . I'm known to listen to a bit of neo-folk now and again. :)

I knew I had heard you singing "I've got a brand new combine harvester" on occassion

[Guy13]

I know, hence the :wink: . I'm known to listen to a bit of neo-folk now and again. :)

I knew I had heard you singing "I've got a brand new combine harvester" on occassion

I'll have you know that I'm very proud of that combine harvester. It's my pride and joy! :lol:

[SP]

Uwe plays it early on. Mak is the one that occasionally plays it during the last hour or so.

Guy, I hope you're not including me there ... I ain't no rivett!

Uwe has played it a handful of times ever. He doesn't like the track. Pete plays it all the time, along with most guest DJs. Then Mak... :)

I'm at Slime every week. Trust me, Uwe plays this tune A LOT more than Mak.

I didn't like it at first, but it kinda grew on me. :wink:

It does have a good video!

[untermensch]

I'm at Slime every week. Trust me, Uwe plays this tune A LOT more than Mak.

Dude, you are mistaken. I spend a lot of time with Uwe, often talking about music, and I'm there whenever he DJs (except last New Year's). He played it a few times when it first got popular early last year and has since left it alone - particularly because he knows Pete wants to play it most nights. Also, Uwe has only spun at Slimes around once a month for the last 3 or 4 months!

It does have a good video!

The one with the powertool-wielding ladies is the *other* video and I think it's rather tasteless :). I liked the original one with the band members moving in super slow-motion.

[untermensch]

Btw SP, do you happen to work for a small business ISP in Camden?

[SP]

Dude, you are mistaken. I spend a lot of time with Uwe, often talking about music, and I'm there whenever he DJs (except last New Year's). He played it a few times when it first got popular early last year and has since left it alone - particularly because he knows Pete wants to play it most nights. Also, Uwe has only spun at Slimes around once a month for the last 3 or 4 months!

Uwe was the first I heard playing it ... and he caned it, and caned it ...

The one with the powertool-wielding ladies is the *other* video and I think it's rather tasteless :). I liked the original one with the band members moving in super slow-motion.

Yep, the tasteless one ... it's excellent!!! :twisted:

[snoww_wwhite]

btw have you read the line up for WGT? ;)


Has it been recently updated?

*goes to look*

Ah Cama-Sotz (B) - - Das Ich (D) - Die Krupps (D) - Dive (B) - Greyhound (D) - - Kiew (D) - Mono No Aware (D) -- MS Gentur (D) - SHNARPH (D) - - Welle:Erdball (D) - Xotox (D) -

Well those are the eleven bands so far that interest me.

Rivetmike

snap and Neuroticfish :) but SHNAPH should be excelent :D

i so wish he could play at slimelight