Loki’s setlist at Slimelight New Years Eve December 2004

[Loki]

Loki’s setlist at Slimelight New Years Eve December 2004

9:00 – 11:00 Trad Floor

Helium Viola – Veni Veni
Diamanda Galas – Double Barrel Prayer
Alien Sex Fiend – Lips Can’t Go
Imaginary Walls – December
Black Tape For a Blue Girl – Across a Thousand Blades
My Dying Bride – Black Heart Romance
The Cult – Rain ®
Sisters of Mercy – This Corrosion ®
Diva Destruction – You Are My Sickness ®
Danielle Dax – Yummer Yummer Man
Virgin Prunes – Pagan Love Song
Shriekback – Nemesis
Fad Gadget – Ricky’s Hand ®
Fields of The Nephilim – Preacher Man ®
The Clash – London’s Calling
Siouxsie and The Banshees – Cities In Dust (12”) ®
The Shroud – Alice
The Merry Thoughts – Goddess
The March Violets – Snakedance ®
Theatre of Tragedy – Lorelie
Two Witches – Bytes and Bloody Kisses ®
Helium Viola – Printemps ®
Bolshoi – Books on The Bonfire ®
Skeletal Family – So Sure ®
Sisters of Mercy – Marianne
Zeraphine – Die Wirklichkent


12:30 – 1:30 Trad Floor

Gene Loves Jezebel – Shaving My Neck ®
The Birthday Party – Release The Bats
Clan of Xymox – Jasmine and Rose ®
Cinema Strange – Lindsay’s Trachea ®
Sex Gang Children – Medea ®
March Violets – Grooving in Green
Virgin Prunes – Caucasian Walk
Alien Sex Fiend – Ignore The Machine
Bauhaus – Double Dare ®
Switchblade Symphony – Insect ®
Sisters of Mercy – Lucretia My Reflection ®
The Horatii – Island of Zombie Women ®
Marionettes – Ava Dementia


2:30 – 4:00 Trad Floor

Bauhaus – Passion of Lovers ®
The Cure – Let’s Go To Bed ®
Psychedelic Furs – Pretty in Pink ®
New Model Army – No Rest ®
Nick Cave – Straight to You ®
Deine Lakaien – Return
Lacrimosa – Alles Luge
Eyes of The Nightmare Jungle – Shadow Dance
Siouxsie and The Banshees – Dazzle ®
Sex Gang Children – Boss and Beauty ®
Fad Gadget – Collapsing New People
The Creatures – Right Now ®
Iggy Pop – The Passenger ®
Ikon – Black Roses
Gitane Demone – Secret Meditation
Soft Cell – Martin ®
Susperia – (Now We See) The Swine
London After Midnight – Kiss ®
Nick Cave – Deanna ®
Within Temptation – Mother Earth ®


5:00 – 6:00 Trad Floor

Iggy Pop – Nazi Girlfriend ®
Specimen – Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
The Creatures –Exterminating Angel ®
Zodiac Mindwarp and The Love Reaction – Prime Mover
Creaming Jesus – A Forest ®
Dead Kennedys – Holiday in Cambodia
The Cramps – Elvis Fucking Christ ®
Rosetta Stone – Adrenaline
Sisters of Mercy – Marianne ( version) ®
Alien Sex Fiend – Now I’m Feeling Zombified ®
Siouxsie and The Banshees – Red Light
Bauhaus – She’s in Parties
Killing Joke – Love Like Blood ®
The Marionettes – Heaven and Hell
The Damned - Eloise
Jesus and Mary Chain – Some Candy Talking ®

Silly tune at the end of the night – Wayne County & The Electric Chairs – Fuck Off

® = request (band or track or band & track)

[TZAR]

THANKS LOKI FOR A GOOD NIGHT,NICE TRY AT KEEPING THE FLOOR OPEN LONGER.MAYBE WE SHOULD MOVE THE EBM FLOOR DOWNSTAIRS AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT.UNFORTUNATLY EVERYONE WAS TOO FUCKED FOR THE SIT IN ON THE UP STAIRS FLOOR.(OR NO BOLLOCKS) :evil:

[snoww_wwhite]

THANKS LOKI FOR A GOOD NIGHT,NICE TRY AT KEEPING THE FLOOR OPEN LONGER.MAYBE WE SHOULD MOVE THE EBM FLOOR DOWNSTAIRS AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT.UNFORTUNATLY EVERYONE WAS TOO FUCKED FOR THE SIT IN ON THE UP STAIRS FLOOR.(OR NO BOLLOCKS) :evil:

hrmmm then again the trad floor open 2 hours before the industrial floor and 1 hour before the EBM and whatever mix floor (the top floor) so, i guess its only fair to end the trad floor a bit earlier.

[TZAR]

well lets see.top floor,middle floor(sound the same a lot of the time),open every week.Trad goth floor open every 2 to 4 weeks.MMMM I see the fairness you are talking about. :?

[snoww_wwhite]

well lets see.top floor,middle floor(sound the same a lot of the time),open every week.Trad goth floor open every 2 to 4 weeks.MMMM I see the fairness you are talking about. :?

i disagree, i do not think that they sound the same, i could say about the trad goth that we have heard the same tunes for the last 20 years and how boring is that?

but i think its a bit silly really to argue about that.

fact is, that the floor opens one to two hours earlier than the others.

fact is also that its a trad goth dedicated floor.

fact is that its all night trad goth.

i think i would like the same for noise, even if its only once a month, a whole night just noise would be nice. (and no ibiza techno)

[TZAR]

[I think that this could turn into one of those heated debates between goth and ebm,of which I have had many.It`s like a religion,a belief.....!I have been in the goth scene since the 80`s hence my prefrence to gothic rock/punk rock!Slimelight has been going for many years and has always been a goth club,lets respect the club for what it is renowned for.Pity that management doesn`t hear the plea from the goths.there are just as many goths as ebm`s but i said that i was not going to get involved in another heated debate!!enough said!!!!! :twisted:

[Alexander]

What a silly discussion. :P

Well, speaking as someone that usually floats around all the floors.

Firstly, a modern club needs to change to support the music and people that it's targeted at. I personally would prefer to see it as a cutting edge alternative club with a retro floor rather than a retro club with the occasional new music floor.

The trad floor opens earlier and closes earlier simply because trad goths are more likely to turn up earlier and leave earlier. The top floor is usually quite empty until later on compared with the trad floor. But most of the older trad goths simply don't seem to have the energy (or whatever) when compared with the younger ebm crowd, so the trad floor becomes quite sparse later on when compared with the top floor.

Doing a noise floor once a month would be a tad ridiculous. You're talking about comparing a floor which covers a whole variety of different genres over the past 30 years (trad floor actually translates into a mix of punk, goth, rock, metal, industrial etc) with a relatively newer sub-genre of a sub-genre of music (noise where 90% of it has been released over the past 5 or so years with only a handful of "major" artists).

Basically, you're both talking nonsense imo. Need to look at both the pros and cons and stop using selective arguments. :twisted:

[snoww_wwhite]

What a silly discussion. :PBasically, you're both talking nonsense imo. Need to look at both the pros and cons and stop using selective arguments. :twisted:

i preferred the discussion with Tzar to be honest, he might not share my opinion but is less rude.

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[Alexander]

It wasn't my intention to be rude, just pointing out that your individual arguments were rather illogical and blinkered i.e. pointing out that the trad floor starts earlier without adding that it also ends earlier. You were purposefully picking only the facts that you were interested in whilst ignoring the facts that didn't back up your case. It looked like little more than a game of oneupmanship. :wink:

[DunkelEngel]

ummm...
I only say that I will come on the 5th February only if there is some serious industrial stuff and a non-stop EBM ride.
I don't fuck about goth, tradgoth, neogoth, and all of that. I mean, NOTHING AGAINST EM! hehe, goths are cool. *peace*

I just make some propaganda for the only day in my life I am coming to Slimes. I hope there will be at least a little floor with no goth stuff, no techno shit.

just industrial, or EBM
:D :D :D

[snoww_wwhite]

ummm...
I only say that I will come on the 5th February only if there is some serious industrial stuff and a non-stop EBM ride.
I don't fuck about goth, tradgoth, neogoth, and all of that. I mean, NOTHING AGAINST EM! hehe, goths are cool. *peace*

I just make some propaganda for the only day in my life I am coming to Slimes. I hope there will be at least a little floor with no goth stuff, no techno shit.

just industrial, or EBM
:D :D :D

well ther eis a floor where they play noise but at times it drifts into techno, sometimes where cheesey techno, which you would find in typical townie places. the middle floor fucks about with goth and industrial and futurepop so, i guess its a hit and miss and there is not garantee that you'll have a perfect night if you only turn up once.

my best clubbing night ever was had at slimelight though, where they played really good noise early, then Xotox live, then really good noise later... i was in clubbing heaven, it will never be forgotten - promise!

THOUGH i was not happy with mister Pete's drift into ibiza/townie cheese selection lately, i have voted him the most unpredictable DJ of the year, wheras Francesca was voted the most consistent and competent all round DJ of the year and Matt holds the title of the best noisey newcomer DJ of the year. :D

so i guess, we all take the smooth with the rough at slimelight but there are some seriously great highlights and a few very low lights.

but i am still very greatful for the fact that they play at least SOME noise every week, show me a club that does that elsewhere on a weekly basis :D

[DunkelEngel]

Ibiza? cheesey techno?

are you joking? WTF!!!!!

*is scared*

do they really play that stuff in Slimes? I'm not saying they play it too much, I just can't understand how does it happen...
I start growing some doubts. In Italy the cyber scene is not strong, just in Milan, Turin and Rome. But one thing I am sure about it is that it fights against dance shit. Like Ibiza sound techno, or hard house. If I have to be sincere, also trance is not appropriated here in a rivethead's headphones...
That's because in Italy dance and related genres (expecially "progressiva") are xtremely popular, all the clubs have this rotation, and generally, the Ibiza-lover is one of the most disgusting life-being in Italy. Rude, stupid, sex-driven, slave-on-dope, lover of stuff like "big brother" and any stupid talk-show. They are not a subculture, cuz they are one of the mainstream cultures. With the commercial pop one, the r'n'b one and the rap one. Punk is quickly going commercial here. Metal is not commercial but it's so diffused that has lost all the underground flavour.

So, you will understand my fear to hear that shit in Slimelight.
Maybe is just different culture, so you will tell me.

[Blink]

I think that with the whole "cheesey techno" thing, it is easy to understand how it fits into the whole musical cross-spectrum that slimelight covers.

It isn't hard to see how you could make a cheesey techno song dark, pushing it closer to the whole noise/electroclash thing, and also, how you could take a noise/electroclash song, and tweak it to make it more dance-orientated. When you start including the harder end of ebm into this equation, it becomes more a full-spectrum of music, as opposed to separate genres.

I totally understand why people might not like "Satisfaction", but replace the cheesey vocal with something more "alternative", and dirty up the bass sound, and you have something far darker....


***Thinks "Eletronicat vs Berni Bennassi (sp) - Love your satisfaction" *** hmmmm

[SP]

***Thinks "Eletronicat vs Berni Bennassi (sp) - Love your satisfaction" *** hmmmm

... Now there's a thought!! :twisted:

[Guy13]

***Thinks "Eletronicat vs Berni Bennassi (sp) - Love your satisfaction" *** hmmmm

... Now there's a thought!! :twisted:

8O 8O 8O

*pulls a hair and runs around screaming*

[Sin-RazorAngel]

ARRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHH
HOW DARE YOU USE Electronicat and that *spits* satis*spits*faction *spits* song in the same sentence...
GRRRR
death to you

[Blink]

***Thinks "Eletronicat vs Berni Bennassi (sp) - Love your satisfaction" *** hmmmm

... Now there's a thought!! :twisted:

Glad you see where I am coming from, Mr SP

[Sin-RazorAngel]

sits down and sobs....
please...i beg of you...
NO MORE SATISFACTION....MAKE IT STOP PLEEEEASE MAKE IT STOP

[Alexander]

So, you will understand my fear to hear that shit in Slimelight. Maybe is just different culture, so you will tell me.

Unfortunately a lot of DJs will occasionally sacrifrice some integrity for a cheap way to fill the dance floor and will play something predictably mainstream yet popular with the alternative crowd. Stuff like 'Satisfaction' being one obvious example upstairs. I've heard stuff like Interpol being played on the middle floor every now and then too.

Personally speaking, I like a lot of it, but at the same time I think it's a bit of a cop out. There's enough good music out there without having to resort to mainstream chart music. Trading off goth music against music for goths (or cyber music against music for cyber people) has always been a particular annoyance of mine, but there you go.

[Rivetmike]

Firstly, a modern club needs to change to support the music and people that it's targeted at. I personally would prefer to see it as a cutting edge alternative club with a retro floor rather than a retro club with the occasional new music floor.


I agree,Slimelight no longers advertises itself exclusively as a "goth" club so people who harker for the "good old days" will probably be better served by one of the newer London goth clubs.Even though there are nights when I may gripe about the music I understand that it can't be exactly to my taste all night every night.

After all if it were my type of thing all night chances are that a lot of the people I go to Slimelight to see would no longer attend and I wouldn't want that to happen.

As for "my type of thing" that Strength Through Joy night looks wikkid :)

Rivetmike

[Guy13]

sits down and sobs....
please...i beg of you...
NO MORE SATISFACTION....MAKE IT STOP PLEEEEASE MAKE IT STOP

I wholeheartedly agree...the song is an ABOMINATION! :evil:

[Blink]

Unfortunately a lot of DJs will occasionally sacrifrice some integrity for a cheap way to fill the dance floor and will play something predictably mainstream yet popular with the alternative crowd.

It isn't about "sacrificing some integrity". It is about playing what the crowd will enjoy, the DJ is there to entertain. Personally, I also think a DJ is there to educate, and so they should also be playing new/different music too, but that already happens at slimelight. It is very difficult to play 8 hours of music every week, whilst always keeping it new and fresh. And what is wrong with playing different sorts of music. One mans cheese is another mans caviar, or something like that

[Alexander]

It's not necessarily wrong, it's just a cop out is what it is. Saw too many goth nights revert into cheesy 80s nights and then fold. Obviously this is only my opinion though, but if you DJ a cyber set and the most popular song you play is something that's been sitting in the charts for weeks on end... then what does that say about the rest of your set? :P

And how is playing something that most people will see or hear through mainstream media whether they like it or not (via Top Of The Pops, somebody else's radio, adverts for "Now That's What I call Absolute Shite Volume 99" or whatever) considered education? I'm more impressed if a DJ can find something good and raise it from obscurity, then hand something back to the alternative scene after the mainstream music scene has had it's way with it!

As far as education goes, if you learned something well after pretty much everyone else in the country, that was what we used to call "special education", and you probably got on a very short bus to school. :D

And the next time somebody complains about people being in the club wearing burberry or a white t-shirt and blue jeans... just remember you gave them a reason to come back! :wink:

Basically, I would only expect to hear cheese from a DJ that was either a DJ in a specifically cheese orientated club, or from one that had been DJing for long enough that s(he) could get away with it... and even then not the same thing every bloody week!

[Blink]

It isn't a cop out to play something that is in the charts, if the punters want to hear it, then you are doing your job by playing it, whether you (ie the DJ) like it or not.

And I wasn't refering to the chart songs being education, some of the other stuff you play is education, it is a fine line between playing new stuff to keep your audience educated, and then alienating them playing songs they don't know.

A good DJ finds a balance between playing new stuff, "classic" tracks, and the current "it" tunes.

the funny thing is, I like satisfaction, but hate the Depeche Mode remix that Mak always plays at the end of the night, but I have friends who are the exact opposite, but Mak plays what the audience wants, so I can't complain about it....if I don't like it, I don't have to dance.


(all this is IMHO BTW)

:wink:

[Alexander]

It isn't a cop out to play something that is in the charts, if the punters want to hear it, then you are doing your job by playing it, whether you (ie the DJ) like it or not.

You seem to have forgotten that Slimelight is supposedly an alternative club though...

At what point is it still alternative when it's playing mainstream chart music?

Not that I agree with playing what the punters want to hear all the time anyway. If they request something in the vein of what the club is for they'll get it played. If they request something outside the spectrum of the club then it won't.

I've been asked to play Iron Maiden in trad clubs before; I like Iron Maiden personally, there might be a lot more other people other than the person that just asked me who might also like Iron Maiden, but if I'm DJing in a trad goth club I would never play Iron Maiden.

If somebody comes up to me and requests Satisfaction (or whatever) gets played, they'll get shot. :wink:

[Blink]

You seem to have forgotten that Slimelight is supposedly an alternative club though...

At what point is it still alternative when it's playing mainstream chart music?


QED Nothing that charts is Alternative

No Depeche Mode, no Nine Inch Nails, no Marilyn Manson (middle floor, not a bad thing), no Prodigy (woohoo, no prodigy), no Delerium, no New Order, no Underworld...and that is me just off the top of my head at work.

I agree about not playing "any old request", but the demand seems to be there for the "cheesey techno", and it isn't as if the damcefloor is full of "jeans and t-shirts" when it plays

[panic]

You seem to have forgotten that Slimelight is supposedly an alternative club though...

....

If somebody comes up to me and requests Satisfaction (or whatever) gets played, they'll get shot.


I almost shot a girl who came up twice! to request it. I must admit I played DM, but it was a new mix. In fact, here is what I played. 5 people came up to enquire about differents tracks:

(not in play order, just what i remember)

Beyer & Lenk ft Tiga - Ananda
DM - Something To Do [black strobe]
Hacker/Millimetric/Carretta - Moscow Reise
X Dream - We Interface
Mysterymen - Electromode
Tonio & Carretta - My Telephone is Dead
Kiko - Italomatic (kiko / hacker mix)
Alessandro F - The Wiseguys
Corco & Carreira - Mind Head
Bangkok Impact - Junge Dame (BI mix) - my favourite track
Quarks - Allein (mix)
The Hacker - Radiation
Tiga - Burning Down (London's Burning)
PFN - Automatic
Black Strobe - Chemical Sweet Girl
Freeks - The Creeps
Alek Stark - Light and sex [r.calvin mix]
Millimetric - Naked Body
Johannes Heil - Golden Dawn
T.Raumschmiere - Monstertruckdriver
Hong Kong Counterfeit - Metal Disco [vitalic mix]
I-F - Space invaders are smoking grass
kittin / hacker - stock exchange
martini bros - flash [tiga mix]

and a few more

i think the problem some of you, who go to slimelight every week, find is that some of the dj-s are there every week too. and some of those dj-s are playing the same set every week, changing the track order, of course. i have nothing against it, good luck to them 8O however, i prefer to turn up once a month and play a different set each time. it's much more fun to put on a good track i've never played before and 'work' on it [put on some effects, play another track on top, or even cut it half-way through]. there is so much music around, and i have enough, to play 3 days without stopping, or repeating myself. the longest i played was 8 hours and i loved every minute of it. i'm sure most of the dj-s can do it, but they seem to be scared of the 'new' or 'untried', not to mention 'groundbreaking'.

maybe slimelight should invite more dj-s to play there and break up the pattern a little. however, that is up to them.

[panic]

You seem to have forgotten that Slimelight is supposedly an alternative club though...

....

If somebody comes up to me and requests Satisfaction (or whatever) gets played, they'll get shot.


I almost shot a girl who came up twice! to request it. I must admit I played DM, but it was a new mix. In fact, here is what I played. 5 people came up to enquire about differents tracks:

(not in play order, just what i remember)

Beyer & Lenk ft Tiga - Ananda
DM - Something To Do [black strobe]
Hacker/Millimetric/Carretta - Moscow Reise
X Dream - We Interface
Mysterymen - Electromode
Tonio & Carretta - My Telephone is Dead
Kiko - Italomatic (kiko / hacker mix)
Alessandro F - The Wiseguys
Corco & Carreira - Mind Head
Bangkok Impact - Junge Dame (BI mix) - my favourite track
Quarks - Allein (mix)
The Hacker - Radiation
Tiga - Burning Down (London's Burning)
PFN - Automatic
Black Strobe - Chemical Sweet Girl
Freeks - The Creeps
Alek Stark - Light and sex [r.calvin mix]
Millimetric - Naked Body
Johannes Heil - Golden Dawn
T.Raumschmiere - Monstertruckdriver
Hong Kong Counterfeit - Metal Disco [vitalic mix]
I-F - Space invaders are smoking grass
kittin / hacker - stock exchange
martini bros - flash [tiga mix]

and a few more

i think the problem some of you, who go to slimelight every week, find is that some of the dj-s are there every week too. and some of those dj-s are playing the same set every week, changing the track order, of course. i have nothing against it, good luck to them 8O however, i prefer to turn up once a month and play a different set each time. it's much more fun to put on a good track i've never played before and 'work' on it [put on some effects, play another track on top, or even cut it half-way through]. there is so much music around, and i have enough, to play 3 days without stopping, or repeating myself. the longest i played was 8 hours and i loved every minute of it. i'm sure most of the dj-s can do it, but they seem to be scared of the 'new' or 'untried', not to mention 'groundbreaking'.

maybe slimelight should invite more dj-s to play there and break up the pattern a little. however, that is up to them.

[DunkelEngel]

Blink sounds very smart. He is quiet and firm in his opinions.
Still, the problem is not solved.

We're not talking about "good alternative people" and "evil cheesey people". I don't judge who likes Benassi, Interpol, or even tATu. Other parameters influence my position toward a person.

We're talking about Slimelight. We're talking about the most relevant industrial club in London. If we talk about it, we talk about industrial/cyber/etc.. scene at all. And no one can say this scene is mainstream. It is underground, at all. We have an often strict dress code, we have our cult movies and books, we have our utopias and our dystopias. All of that has been created gradually since the very end of the 70's, it is still mutating. This is because cyber scene looks at future, and future is everyday closer.
BUT you can't change it TOO MUCH. Industrial (and related subgenres) fills an important void between the violence of metal and the rhythm of techno/dance. Industrial is not a little stupid subgenre that goes away in 4-5 year. I am proud of this music, I feel it in my veins. And when I feel the basses stomping on my heart, I am pleased it's not techno or dance.

Because it's not only about music. It's about a whole mythological stucture. Subcultures are made of this; they mutate borders, but they do have em. We can not take in consideration Ibiza sound played in Slimelight, as far Slimelight is THE industrial club. Of course, sounds may sometimes be similar, and I accept that people like also some Ibiza artists. But we're talking about the scene, and the scene does not accept that shit.

If we consider "satisfaction" a new sensation of EBM music, we have lost direction. It is a beautiful track, but its roots are nowhere close to the industrial ones. When you dance to Icon of Coil's "existence in progress", you keep in your mind Andy's face, his black suit, his angry stomping on the Wave Gotik Treffen stage. It's very catchy, but it's part of our subculture.
I tell you this because I think this subculture is strong enough to need NO external help. As Blink said, it covers a wide musical range. I agree. But this spectrum has borders.

Out of those borders? HIC SUNT LEONES.
I respect but I don't want to go.
My scene is violent enough, is dancy enough, is dark enough, is cool enough.

:wink:

[panic]

shouldn't your speach mention cabaret voltaire, throbbing gristle, et al. instead of icon of coil who are coming from techno?

slimelight is, unfortunately, not about music. it's about looking different. people who go to slimelight happily go to other clubs to listen to and dance to a very different music. they come to slimelight as nobody would hassle them because of the way they look. (i'm not sure about the grammar here)

[SP]

Blink sounds very smart. He is quiet and firm in his opinions.
Still, the problem is not solved.

There's no problem to solve here ... these types of tunes are in a minority amongst the stuff that the DJs play.

We can not take in consideration Ibiza sound played in Slimelight, as far Slimelight is THE industrial club. Of course, sounds may sometimes be similar, and I accept that people like also some Ibiza artists. But we're talking about the scene, and the scene does not accept that shit.:

I think you take this too literally. The majority of stuff that gets referred to as "Ibiza" is in fact stuff like Apoptygma ... for which the term: "Ibiza Goth" was coined (he he ... Flux love's it really :wink: ... maybe not!).

I don't DJ at Slime, but I do play elsewhwere. As an example, I was playing Flight 643 by Tiesto about 18 months before anyone at Slime. Then Uwe started playing it. It doesn't directly fit any of Slimelight's sub-genres, but it's a great track ... and Mak closed New Years Eve with it ... is this wrong? ... Personally, I don't think so!

Nik's right ... Slime for most, is about dressing up, being yourself, and not getting hassle for it by Townies. Perhaps some DJs are a bit repetitive, but hey, show me a perfect set-list, and I'll find you some-one who doesn't like it!!

[Flux]

*raises eyebrow*

I've told you before, I'll have none of that "hands in the air" namby pamby shite in here ;) :P :lol:

Is it ironic that I don't like the Ibiza Goth but am loving techno & some of the harder/darker dance etc? And more to the point, do I care? 8)

*goes off to play some Hooj Tunes* :)

Seriously tho, I'm almost sad that some of the dark tech/dance doesn't get played at Slime anymore as you certainly wont hear that anywhere else! Well, unless SP & Flux are mixing it up, but that's another matter :twisted: ;)

[Crash_Dark]

If there's the odd song you don't like, surely it's an oportunity to go for a wander/chat/drink/whatever? If there are LOADS of songs you don't like, perhaps you're in the wrong place?

Everyone's definition of what's 'alternative enough' to be acceptable at Slime is going to be (at least) slightly different, but ultimately it's up to the management. If they're losing people because of the music, I expect they'll make sure the play-list changes, but if the majority are happy why should they change things just to make a minority happy? I really enjoy the mixture of stuff that gets played at Slimelight.

Personally, if a song comes on I'm not too keen on (rare - I have broad tastes) and I want to dance, I'll go and try the other floor. Having narrow tastes will make this harder, of course...

[snoww_wwhite]

Slime for most, is about dressing up, being yourself, and not getting hassle for it by Townies.

http://patriot.net/~bschopp/funny.gif

i must have gone to a total different club but my nights are rarely hassle free and the white trainers brigade usually help making it so.

let me cross over to another thread:

PLEASE ENFORCE THE DRESSCODE PLEASE!!!

[snoww_wwhite]

, but if the majority are happy why should they change things just to make a minority happy? I really enjoy the mixture of stuff that gets played at Slimelight.


the people spoke:

Total Votes: 6328

Goth 28.98% (1834)
Fetish 5.56% (352)
Punk 3.07% (194)
Cyber Punk 6.61% (418)
Industrial 16.92% (1071)
Nu Metal 1.66% (105)
Grunge 2.18% (138)
Cross-dresser 2.62% (166)
I don't do category 32.40% (2050)

so we can safely assume that MOST people who go there would expect, like and want to listen to stuff that is vaguely goth or industrial or both.



The Slimelight is London's longest running alternative club dealing in industrial, power-noise, cyber-synth, ebm, cyber-goth, darkwave, trad + modern goth, plus crossover and related alternative sounds.


crossover and retaled is fine by me, though some of the techno heard and played at slimelight lately, has appealed almost entirely to the townies that have been spotted more frequently at slimelight. maybe it would be good if the DJs in question could rethink what type of techno they play and perhaps only play the stuff that is in fact a cross over and somewhat industrial?:D

but yes, usually one can go to the lower floor and often we find that the DJ there is in fact spinning quite decent harsh ebm at the time while townie heaven unleashes itself on the industech floor. Occasionally there is nothing really good on for several hours though, which more often than not, means that frustration level rises.

which is exactly the reason why i dont like going to Synthetic Culture anymore, i found it tedious to wait half the night for a couple of good songs, because by the time thye are being played, i am in such a bad mood, that i dont care about the good music anymore either but clubbing should be about fun.

so i guess Slimelight is right now the club that iam most satisfied with, as long as the quality of the music does not decline further. and also, Slimelight is the club that provided me with the one night of clubbing that i shall not ever forget... it was incredible :D and i am only talking about the music ;)

[Crash_Dark]

the people spoke:

Total Votes: 6328

Goth 28.98% (1834)
Fetish 5.56% (352)
Punk 3.07% (194)
Cyber Punk 6.61% (418)
Industrial 16.92% (1071)
Nu Metal 1.66% (105)
Grunge 2.18% (138)
Cross-dresser 2.62% (166)
I don't do category 32.40% (2050)

so we can safely assume that MOST people who go there would expect, like and want to listen to stuff that is vaguely goth or industrial or both.



The Slimelight is London's longest running alternative club dealing in industrial, power-noise, cyber-synth, ebm, cyber-goth, darkwave, trad + modern goth, plus crossover and related alternative sounds.


crossover and retaled is fine by me, though some of the techno heard and played at slimelight lately, has appealed almost entirely to the townies that have been spotted more frequently at slimelight. maybe it would be good if the DJs in question could rethink what type of techno they play and perhaps only play the stuff that is in fact a cross over and somewhat industrial?:D


Interesting use of lies, damn lies and statistics! I like it ;)

I'd say, on the whole, the majority of music at Slime is goth/industrial or derived from them. Not all, but most. As for the quote from the Slimelight site, almost all of the music played probably falls into the rather wide categories listed. Whether indivdual songs fit or not is largely a matter of subjective opinion. There will be some tunes played which blatantly don't belong in these categories (though I doubt there are that many). If they clear the dance floor, I expect they won't be played much again. If they don't clear the floor, surely that means it's good that they're played?

I'm sure that you could pick almost any song played on any night, and find someone there who didn't like it. You can't please all of the people all of the time...

[snoww_wwhite]

I'm sure that you could pick almost any song played on any night, and find someone there who didn't like it. You can't please all of the people all of the time...

jessus i wish you brits would stop using that lame argument that you just cannot please everyone in order to justify or explain things that people complain about...

.. i think my statement deserves being read a little better than that to be honest.

i said, that i feel that there is a growing townie crowd in slimelight, especially on the top floor, enticed in by the frequent, recent playing of techno, whcih is simple and pain that - TECHNO and doesnt attract the usual, industrial or goth crowd, but only and ever the townies.

i think that is wrong and i think that a lot of the time almost all the industrial/goth people went away, leaving the place to the townie folk, which is wrong wrong wrong (IMHO).

i do by no means expect to be pleased all of the time every time but i also expect that the DJ tries to play alternative/goth/industrial, as advertised.

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[SP]

You'll have to point these townies out to us ... coz I never see 'em! :?

[Blink]

One thing that colours my opinions on all this is that in virtually all cases (except when going out with my work colleagues). is go to a club for the music Anything else is just window dressing. So as long as a tune is good, I am not bothered what genre it is from.

I do, however, know many people who do go to Slime for other reasons than just the music.

[Crash_Dark]

I'm sure that you could pick almost any song played on any night, and find someone there who didn't like it. You can't please all of the people all of the time...

jessus i wish you brits would stop using that lame argument that you just cannot please everyone in order to justify or explain things that people complain about...

.. i think my statement deserves being read a little better than that to be honest.

Is it a lame argument? Or is it a fact? Is it possible to please everyone all of the time, whatever your nationality?

I've re-read your statement, and it doesn't appear that I've missed anything. What did I miss?

I have seen a very few townies in Slime, but I think it's more than likely things other than the music which brings them in. They're far from 'taking over' though, IMHO, and think it's pretty unlikely they ever will. The current mix of music is not your average townie's cup of tea. OK, there may be the odd track they recognise/like, but on the whole I bet they like the music a lot less than you do Snowwy...

Oh, and I agree that the dress code should be enforced a little more strictly, BTW, but that's another matter....

[Flux]

Hate to be the one to say it, but going on the "logic" of taking the statistics from the site one could therefore say that there are almost twice as many Goths at Slimelight than there are industrialists, and even more people that "don't do category", which could be an indication of people that like music from all across the board, alternative or otherwise...and as such should the music therefore (again, going by the "logic" given) cater more towards this broader alternative grouping?

At the end of the day who really cares? Slimelight is one of the most diverse clubs (both musically and for clientelle) that you are likely to come across. I for one wouldn't want it to drastically change one way or another as altho I may not like everything that gets played *shakes fist at ghey Ibiza Goth* ;) I do for the most part love the ethics behind why the Slime dj's play what they play.

There have been weeks at Slime where I've not wanted to dance to any of the music being played, and there have been weeks where I have danced non-stop. I'd much rather it like this as opposed to clubs like Full Tilt (deceased) where the music may have got interesting for a few tracks at a time throughout the night.

Anyway, this conversation bores me. It's all very futile & I'm feeling very pedantic :P :twisted:

[Alexander]

slimelight is, unfortunately, not about music. it's about looking different. people who go to slimelight happily go to other clubs to listen to and dance to a very different music. they come to slimelight as nobody would hassle them because of the way they look. (i'm not sure about the grammar here)

I usually go to Slimelight because there's not much better going on elsewhere personally. After that it comes down to going because there's going to be lots of nice like-minded people to irritate... errr... meet and talk to. Then comes the music, and right at the back of "reasons to go to Slimelight" comes 'not being hassled because of the way I look'.

QED Nothing that charts is Alternative

Well, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just misread what I said rather than selectively chosen which bit of that one particular sentence to reply to. I specifically said "mainstream chart music".

Good alternative music will obviously sell, and therefore chart. Yet I wouldn't call it mainstream. Mainstream chart music is usually popular because it's sold well, not necessarily because it's any good i.e generic boy band crapola. Depeche Mode... I've always considered them a popular alternative band. Their music was never particularly "mainstream" as such, it was just popular because it was damn good. The same applies to Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, and Prodigy sitting on the borderline. 'Marilyn Manson - Mechanical Animals' went to number 1 in the album charts. It was not a mainstream chart album. 'Robbie Williams - Greatest Hits' is a mainstream chart album. Obviously it's subject to personal taste, but isn't everything... although I think we can all pretty much agree that something like 'Satisfaction' is more mainstream than alternative.

I'm sure that you could pick almost any song played on any night, and find someone there who didn't like it. You can't please all of the people all of the time...

It's not about that though is it? You're discussing locking the barn door after the horse has bolted. It's about staying within the boundries of what your club should be playing. I'll reiterate my earlier point about how DJs "should" (IMHO) construct their set around the ethos of the club rather than the requests/likes/dislikes of the punters. If you build it, they will come... :wink:

[TZAR]

my,my all I said was thank you Loki for the Goth floor and look at all the bitchiness it started.Looking over the past 3 pages there are alot of different generes voicing their opinion.I think in my post to snoww wwhite I may have pointed out that this is like a religious debate,in other words no one wins.I take my music very seriously almost like a religion and goth/punk is my religion.Fair play to the ebm scene,there are alot of good tracks being played but the emphisis seems to be on them.If you take a night at slimes and spend the time truely listening to everything that gets played,the top floor and the middle floor play alot of the same stuff,sadly sometimes at the same time.And yes the dj`s do play the same stuff over and over again,hence the statement that was made"we have been listening to the same trad goth stuff for years".If dj`s weren`t scared to expeiment and play some of the millions of trad goth tracks that are available maybe it wouldn`t be so boring to some!!on to page 9................................................. ...............

[Crash_Dark]

I'm sure that you could pick almost any song played on any night, and find someone there who didn't like it. You can't please all of the people all of the time...

It's not about that though is it? You're discussing locking the barn door after the horse has bolted. It's about staying within the boundries of what your club should be playing. I'll reiterate my earlier point about how DJs "should" (IMHO) construct their set around the ethos of the club rather than the requests/likes/dislikes of the punters. If you build it, they will come... :wink:

No, because I'm not suggesting that the Slime management should go around asking people what they dislike, and take it off. All I was suggesting was that, no matter what you play, SOMEONE won't like it.

I agree that DJ sets should mostly be constructed around the ethos of the club in question, and in the case of Slime I think they are. What I don't agree with is that they shouldn't be able to experiment and try different stuff. Take 'Satisfaction' for example, which is obviously emotive. If a DJ took a chance and played it, and a large number of people liked it, should they never play it again because a small number of people DIDN'T like it, or because someone has subjectively labelled it 'mainstream'? Surely the job of a DJ is to play what their audience wants to hear? If a club is advertised as alternative, it will draw a mostly alternative crowd. If they don't like the music, they'll gradually stop going. This doesn't seem to have happened, which implies that generally, the DJs are getting it right. I'm generally happy with the music I hear at Slime, I think the DJs do a good job overall, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[Alexander]

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I believe that the DJs should lead by example, not be lead by the punters. I choose not to be a glorified jukebox. :lol:

In my opinion there is enough alternative music out there that never, or rarely, gets played to warrant no mainstream music being played at an alternative club. It's not that it's been subjectively labelled as mainstream, you should be able to tell that just by listening to it...

If a club is advertised as alternative, it will draw a mostly alternative crowd. If they don't like the music, they'll gradually stop going. This doesn't seem to have happened, which implies that generally, the DJs are getting it right.

Not really; your logic doesn't follow through here. As has been previously mentioned there's more to Slimelight than just the music, hence there's a lot of other reasons for people to keep going regardless of the music i.e. not just because the DJs are getting it right (which is of course arguable). Obviously there are a lot of people that are there primarily for the music, but given the state of some of the dancers, they would probably go mental to Nelly The elephant. :wink:

[Crash_Dark]

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I believe that the DJs should lead by example, not be lead by the punters. I choose not to be a glorified jukebox. :lol:

In my opinion there is enough alternative music out there that never, or rarely, gets played to warrant no mainstream music being played at an alternative club. It's not that it's been subjectively labelled as mainstream, you should be able to tell that just by listening to it...

If a club is advertised as alternative, it will draw a mostly alternative crowd. If they don't like the music, they'll gradually stop going. This doesn't seem to have happened, which implies that generally, the DJs are getting it right.

Not really; your logic doesn't follow through here. As has been previously mentioned there's more to Slimelight than just the music, hence there's a lot of other reasons for people to keep going regardless of the music i.e. not just because the DJs are getting it right (which is of course arguable). Obviously there are a lot of people that are there primarily for the music, but given the state of some of the dancers, they would probably go mental to Nelly The elephant. :wink:

I think you're right about having to agree to disagree - what yu're saying is that the DJ should dicatate what the punters are allowed to listen to, whether they like it or not. Not a recipe for a great time IMHO

If you're telling whether something is mainstream just by listening to it, the opinion is, by definition, subjective. To be objective, you'd have to have a precise way of determining what is mainsteam, which could be applied to any song.

As for my logic not following through - it's the same as your 'build it and they will come' logic, but from the opposite point of view. The logic in both cases seems valid, I just don't agree that what you suggest is the best way of doing things.

[Alexander]

I think you're right about having to agree to disagree - what yu're saying is that the DJ should dicatate what the punters are allowed to listen to, whether they like it or not. Not a recipe for a great time IMHO

It depends really. Obviously if you play a load of crap then you're not going to last very long as a DJ. But therin lies the true art in DJing, not playing as many requested songs as possible, but having an exquisite taste in music and knowing what's good, what people will like and knowing the right thing to play. It's perfectly easy to maintain your integrity as a DJ and provide a totally enjoyable set. I like to think I do it once a month or so. :wink:

As for my logic not following through - it's the same as your 'build it and they will come' logic, but from the opposite point of view. The logic in both cases seems valid, I just don't agree that what you suggest is the best way of doing things.

Well, that's another pointer to the difference between mainstream and alternative. The alternative scene has been built on doing what you want regardless of what other people think. That isn't a recipe for something bad, that's a recipe for something different, which is what it's all about imho. By all means be influenced, but for god's sake don't be led by the nose...

[Rivetmike]

What Alexander is suggesting in principle may be a good idea but for it to work punters would have to place an awful lot of trust in the the DJ and as for the DJ s/he must be completely infallible in keeping up to date with new music split across a variety of genres,in 99.9% of cases that just isn't gonna happen as the vocal clientele (OK maybe not vocal just those with an internet connection at work and some freee time at work ;)) will always want to try to influence things their way.There has to be a percentage certainty of hearing in demand songs otherwise the venue loses custom.

What that percentage is is always dependant on DJ.

Rivetmike

[ILLUMINATED]

I agree with snoww wwhite, on the fact that the blatant techno music is attracting townies. Not only is it attracting townies but all sorts of people who are changing the nature of the club and it is turning into a 'generic' night. I have always held the belief that Slimelight would be most successful with a trad goth floor on the upstairs weekly and a primarily industrial floor downstairs. Techno floors do not appear in Goth clubs abroad (though they are appearing in the US) and represents the dilution of the scene. The music on the main floor is anything but Goth (except for the occasional hour, usually at the start or the end) and is more than often heading in the techno floor territory. The trad goth floor is not full of old people but has an age range that is as diverse as any of the floors! The crowds that fill tenebrae, Dead & Buried and B-Movie just show how strong THAT scene is 20 years later. Even a lot of die hard industrialists and Slimelight regulars have started to drop off.

[Crash_Dark]

It depends really. Obviously if you play a load of crap then you're not going to last very long as a DJ. But therin lies the true art in DJing, not playing as many requested songs as possible, but having an exquisite taste in music and knowing what's good, what people will like and knowing the right thing to play. It's perfectly easy to maintain your integrity as a DJ and provide a totally enjoyable set. I like to think I do it once a month or so. :wink:

As for my logic not following through - it's the same as your 'build it and they will come' logic, but from the opposite point of view. The logic in both cases seems valid, I just don't agree that what you suggest is the best way of doing things.

Well, that's another pointer to the difference between mainstream and alternative. The alternative scene has been built on doing what you want regardless of what other people think. That isn't a recipe for something bad, that's a recipe for something different, which is what it's all about imho. By all means be influenced, but for god's sake don't be led by the nose...

Aha, it sounds like we're actually starting to agree here...I just don't believe in a dictatorial style of DJing or a 'like it or lump it' attitude, but that's about where we differ i think.

I saw a flyer for your night on LJ I think - I'll have to try to make it along some time. I reckon I'd like the music, funyy enough ;)

[Alexander]

There has to be a percentage certainty of hearing in demand songs otherwise the venus loses custom.

You're assuming that I'm saying a good DJ plays no requests, which I'm not.

I would guess that of the percentage of requests I get:-

40% are requests for songs that I was going to play anyway or for other songs from artists that I was going to play but can easily switch to so they'll get played.
30% are requests for songs that I either don't have, have no interest in, won't fit in with my set or some other reason why it's difficult. Chances are it won't happen but it might do, there's always the next DJ.
30% are requests for songs that are just totally wrong in my opinion; music that doesn't fit in with the set or the club for that matter.

But you're right, the percentages are dependent on the DJ. Although in my opinion some of the DJs at Slimelight tend to play too many requests and too many of the bad requests - that bottom 50% or so which they should really have stayed away from. But then maybe my standards are too high.

Club DJing tends to be about 20% DJing and 80% politics anyway, but that's another can of worms. :roll:

Aha, it sounds like we're actually starting to agree here...I just don't believe in a dictatorial style of DJing or a 'like it or lump it' attitude, but that's about where we differ i think.

It is a dictatorship though, certainly not a democracy. Or rather, it's more like being the captain of a ship. You have to have faith in the captain, you can make suggestions but at the end of the day you have to believe that the captain knows best. If they're a really bad captain then you can mutiny, but let's just hope you have a better captain to replace him. ;)

I saw a flyer for your night on LJ I think - I'll have to try to make it along some time. I reckon I'd like the music, funyy enough ;)

Just be careful when making a request. I keep a shotgun by the DJ booth. :D

[TZAR]

"But you're right, the percentages are dependent on the DJ. Although in my opinion some of the DJs at Slimelight tend to play too many requests and too many of the bad requests - that bottom 30% which they should really have stayed away from. But then maybe my standards are too high."

NO I DISSAGREE,SLIMELIGHT DJ`S ONLY PLAY THE REQUESTS THAT ARE POPULAR THEREFORE WE HEAR THE SAME STUFF PLAYED WEEK IN WEEK OUT.IF YOU REQUEST A TRACK BY A PARTICULAR BAND,THE MORE POPULAR TRACK WILL BE PLAYED.HOWEVER SOME DJ`S DO PLAY SOME OF THE LESS POPULAR TRACKS AND SURPRISING ENOUGH THE DANCEFLOOR FILLS UP(AND THESE ARE TRAD GOTH TRACKS)WHAT THE PUNTERS THINK DOES COUNT,THATS WHY WE HAVE REGULARS AT SLIMES!!!!!! :!:

[panic]

But you're right, the percentages are dependent on the DJ. Although in my opinion some of the DJs at Slimelight tend to play too many requests and too many of the bad requests - that bottom 30% which they should really have stayed away from. But then maybe my standards are too high.

NO I DISSAGREE,SLIMELIGHT DJ`S ONLY PLAY THE REQUESTS THAT ARE POPULAR THEREFORE WE HEAR THE SAME STUFF PLAYED WEEK IN WEEK OUT.IF YOU REQUEST A TRACK BY A PARTICULAR BAND,THE MORE POPULAR TRACK WILL BE PLAYED.HOWEVER SOME DJ`S DO PLAY SOME OF THE LESS POPULAR TRACKS AND SURPRISING ENOUGH THE DANCEFLOOR FILLS UP(AND THESE ARE TRAD GOTH TRACKS)WHAT THE PUNTERS THINK DOES COUNT,THATS WHY WE HAVE REGULARS AT SLIMES!!!!!! :!:

well, well....... requests: if you think a track is crap and dj plays it on request what does that tell you (and everyone else) about the dj? he/she likes to satisfy the crowd, or he/she has crap tracks in the record box?

just to go back to those silly polls for a second: they mean NOTHING. why: because 70% of people on slimelight forum have never set their foot inside the club, half of them probably never been to the UK (this is a rough estimate). 'naff said (for now)

[snoww_wwhite]

I agree with snoww wwhite

definetly an indication that i got it wrong here :P


on the fact that the blatant techno music is attracting townies. Not only is it attracting townies but all sorts of people who are changing the nature of the club and it is turning into a 'generic' night. I have always held the belief that Slimelight would be most successful with a trad goth floor on the upstairs weekly and a primarily industrial floor downstairs. Techno floors do not appear in Goth clubs abroad (though they are appearing in the US) and represents the dilution of the scene. The music on the main floor is anything but Goth (except for the occasional hour, usually at the start or the end) and is more than often heading in the techno floor territory. The trad goth floor is not full of old people but has an age range that is as diverse as any of the floors! The crowds that fill tenebrae, Dead & Buried and B-Movie just show how strong THAT scene is 20 years later. Even a lot of die hard industrialists and Slimelight regulars have started to drop off.


well Loki will play goth whenever he is DJing and my request for Feindflug was turned down as he felt that he would like to play proper goth instead.

which i thought was sort of fair, as it would be played at another time during the evening.

i think the upstairs needs a bit of working on, as it seems that its either really good noise or techno but i think what is lacking is a broader spectrum of industrial, trad industrial and newer and i still think it would go well with noise along with harsh EBM and maybe totally filthy psytrance but only the stuff that would normally make townies run and scream in terror.

i am usually all too happy to give it another go and turn up again on the next weekend, so it cannot be that bad and i have generally a good time, as i can dance virtually to anything (if you like my style is a different matter ;) )

i have persoanlly no issues with scenes being diluted, i have my problems with people who obviously have got no idea that generally jumping all over everyone is what they can get away with at townie raves but will be extremely annoying while they are at slimelight, where most dancers are fairly stationary. apart form me, but i usually try and dance on the side and out of the way in order to respect other people's right to have a good time too.

as far as i know, there is only Sick and twisted where one can hear and dance to noise in london.

maybe i should really help setting up a dedicated industrial and noise club... maybe maybe. but i might have to move up to london first i guess.
no noise to be heard in brighton either btw!

while i see that noise attracts much less people than goth as a whole, i also think that industrial has been under represented.

but back to the townies, i get a lot of hassle form twonies, even if neither Crash_Dark nor SP have seen them, they are usually the ones who laugh behind their backs about their outfits and generally mock people who like to dance and its only due to the fact that i am almost a lady like creature, i havent resorted to slapping more of them.

[Crash_Dark]

but back to the townies, i get a lot of hassle form twonies, even if neither Crash_Dark nor SP have seen them, they are usually the ones who laugh behind their backs about their outfits and generally mock people who like to dance and its only due to the fact that i am almost a lady like creature, i havent resorted to slapping more of them.

No, I didnt say I hadn' seen ANY, Snowwy, I usually see a very few on each visit, but you made it sound like they were almost a majority, which I don't think is the case.

[Flux]

Some food for thought;

Ironically there was a time when a lot more techno & even (god forbid) some hard house was played at Slimelight pretty much every week. But throughout this time the dancefloor still remained very active and there were no chavs/townies or whatever in sight.

Make of that what you will.

[SP]

Some food for thought;

Ironically there was a time when a lot more techno & even (god forbid) some hard house was played at Slimelight pretty much every week. But throughout this time the dancefloor still remained very active and there were no chavs/townies or whatever in sight.

Make of that what you will.

This is very true ... there was even a TECHNO floor for a while (the downstairs floor when it first opened). Rex used to play quite a lot of mainstream stuff too.

[panic]

the ones i've seen are usually so drugged-up there isn't a chance in a million they can put a sentence together until sunday 8pm.

then again i rarely stick around 'on the floor' as it were, most of my friends do not visit the slimes any longer (no, i don't feel old, but am older than 99% of the people there) i think only fad is older than me...... and loki (although he looks younger)

[snoww_wwhite]

Some food for thought;

Ironically there was a time when a lot more techno & even (god forbid) some hard house was played at Slimelight pretty much every week. But throughout this time the dancefloor still remained very active and there were no chavs/townies or whatever in sight.

Make of that what you will.

i dont mind some techno and hard dance as long as its still hard and dirty and more industrial than futurepop

i like lab 4 quite a bit for instance and your tip about psychaos was spot on too, so i seem to like psytrace of the of filthiest kind as well.


though i have seen evenings, admittedly quiet evening where upstairs was townie central.

btw i dont think it does your song justice if Pete loops it to death

[Jessevision]

Nice set list to see in the new year :wink:

[Lenorina]

Great music...as always Loki. I can't remember dancing Eloise...I have to stop drinking that much.

Sit tibi terra levis

[Alexander]

Some food for thought;

Ironically there was a time when a lot more techno & even (god forbid) some hard house was played at Slimelight pretty much every week. But throughout this time the dancefloor still remained very active and there were no chavs/townies or whatever in sight.

Make of that what you will.

I remember that one, it closed in 1996 or so... and why did it close? It closed because the goth floor upstairs had to be moved somewhere else. If anything we're going backwards... gone from 3 floors every week to 3 floors some weeks!

[belladona_nightshade]

Interesting to read this thread, I went to slimes for the first time Jan 1, been out of the scene for ages, and I was both sorry and happy that just as always at every goth / whatever club I've been to, there was swathes of stuff that wasn't my thing. I was a bit surprised at the amount of techno as opposed to industrial and unsurprised at the wankers who decided they needed half the dancefloor (why?) but really, really happy to be somewhere like that again. It's never going to always be the perfect night at this sort of club, everyone's taste is too specific, but you never get the same rush anywhere else when you hear something out you've only ever got to hear in your bedroom before. So yeah, I'll be going again.

[Crash_Dark]

but you never get the same rush anywhere else when you hear something out you've only ever got to hear in your bedroom before. So yeah, I'll be going again.

If you like trad-goth, Belladonna, try to make it down for the next three-floor when there's a trad-goth floor on the ground floor. You may find more to your taste then. The three-floors seem to come up about every four weeks; it'll be advertised here on the site, and in the newsletter (if you get it).

But of course, you're right that you're never going to like EVERYTHING that gets played. It's refreshing to hear such a realistic view!

[Alexander]

I saw a flyer for your night on LJ I think - I'll have to try to make it along some time. I reckon I'd like the music, funyy enough ;)

Just though I'd mention that the advertised Xtros are not happening now. So you'll have to catch me at the next spectacular which should be B-Movie in March.

The Slimelight office still have my number of course. :wink:

[Crash_Dark]

Cheers Alexander, will have to try to make it down to B-Movie. It'll give me more of a chance to source a bullet-proof vest in case I want to make a request ;)