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dwellems

18-08-2007, 04:26 PM

I feel that this new smoking ban is going to have a lasting
effect on Slimes, as in Numbers coming out to the Club and then have to stand in a stuipet que so that bouncers can have a go at the Goths for not standing in a straight line as what happened to some one I know last week.. The court yard is massive and can easily hold anther 20 or more people at any given time?!:rolleyes:

Byakhiam

18-08-2007, 04:52 PM

Stop smoking. :p

fad

19-08-2007, 09:07 PM

Not our fault :( Don't blame us, blame the bloody fascist government and health and safety for imposing numbers and fire-escapes etc....still, in theory it's all there to make people safer and healthier so shouldn't complain!!! Making everyone stand in a line does make sense for getting in and out as easily as possible though and we English do love to make a line by reputation so...stiff upper lip, chaps!
(PS For any foreigners (you know who you are) reading this, 'queuing' is a thing that we English do that involves standing behind the person in front and waiting your fucking turn...you might want to try it sometime...yes French people...I'm looking at YOU!!!)

Setesh

19-08-2007, 09:33 PM

Hey, ease up on the French, my girlfriend's French.

Alexander

19-08-2007, 10:32 PM

Admittedly I've only been to Slimelight once since the smoking ban came in. It's quite easy to go for a quick fag in most venues I go to, but at Slimelight it's a real pain. The Dev or Fox you can just wander outside, same with most clubs I go to, or they have an outside area.

Not saying this is Slimelight's fault just that it's a pain! It would be nice if there was a better option for smokers rather than "stop smoking" or "tough shit!".

Antagonist

20-08-2007, 12:27 PM

It would be nice if it was easier to just step outside for a bit, whether you're a smoker or not. The crowds and heat of the club just as we got in really did my head in and I found it hard to find a breeze and a quieter corner to chill out. Being able to go outside would have made the difference between feeling a bit stressed and having a full-blown panic attack. It really wasn't pretty.

Having said that, the sheer inconvenience of smoking must be helping people give up. Which might actually be a good thing.

Blink

20-08-2007, 06:59 PM

All I will say is that it was my first time there since the ban started, and you could smell the difference, not in a good way.

More dry ice & scented dry ice, PLEASE

Byakhiam

20-08-2007, 09:37 PM

More dry ice & scented dry ice, PLEASE

To hide the stench of poppers, yes please.

21-08-2007, 02:37 PM

The week before last, there were more people queuing on those stairs and outside smoking than there were on the whole top floor ... how crazy is that?!

Flux

21-08-2007, 06:45 PM

That's insane crazy! That's how crazy that is! ;)

amax

22-08-2007, 01:05 AM

Nah!! It's crazier then crazy can be at being crazy at Craziness!!! Innit bruv!?;)

fad

22-08-2007, 11:01 AM

Hey, ease up on the French, my girlfriend's French.

My condolences, I made the same mistake once....for 8 years. But you're right, once you get past the smell and all the body hair and the rudeness and the tendency to collaborate with the Germans they're not so bad! At least if they get out of order you can always get them to hide in the cellar for several years...they're good at that!!
But theriouthly , in a country that size there must be some good ones and they tend to be the ones that end up over here so I exclude your better half from any future racist rants on my part!!
At least she's not a fucking eskimo, god I hate those people....'whale blubber this, whale blubber that.'...do they never shut up?!
'We have 96 million words for snow, blah, blah, blah!!' What I want to know is, if it's so damned good living in an igloo then why the hell did you make that hole in the ozone layer eh? And don't deny it...it couldn't be entirely the fault of Bush and his mates shirley???

Oh yeah, this is a smoking thread....mmmmmmm, cigarettes. Yum.

Alexander

26-08-2007, 05:55 PM

Not our fault :( Don't blame us, blame the bloody fascist government and health and safety for imposing numbers and fire-escapes etc....

Why is Slimelight the only club I've been to that has these issues? It really did feel like Bullshit Central this weekend.

Sin, Egg etc all have inside courtyards where you can smoke. There's no restrictions on how many people can be out there at any time. No fascist bouncers with pointless clickers guarding the entrance. Similar sized entrances and exits. You can smoke in their courtyards *and* drink at the same time. How do you explain the no drinking rule exactly? The government has banned drinking and smoking at the same time because it increases the chances of spontaneous combustion?

Whose stupid idea was it to get punters to leave their drinks lined up against the wall outside the smoking area? Nobody seemed to be aware of the concept of drinking spiking, as if it was a radical new occurrence in clubs these days. It seems it's almost being actively encouraged by Slimelight management now. How does that fit in with health and safety? I refused to leave my drink unattended, kept it on my person and I got barred from the smoking area because of it, seemingly because I have more common sense than the collective security of Slimelight.

Even clubs/pubs that don't have an inside courtyard allow you to drink/smoke outside. Something needs to be fixed because at the moment it's well past broken and it's fucking stupid.

Dr_absinthe

29-08-2007, 09:05 PM

I had wicked fun in the smoking section last weekend. I met a bunch of people I didn't know, hung out with some people I barely knew and formed closer ties with people I already know. The smoking area is the new social section... You just have to smoke, or pretend to ;p

Alexander

29-08-2007, 11:26 PM

That's what I reckon is the honest reason for not allowing drinks in there - because if they did people would just sit there all night.

Silversurfer

30-08-2007, 01:01 AM

That's what I reckon is the honest reason for not allowing drinks in there - because if they did people would just sit there all night.
Well Alexander? Is this a turn about in your reasoning?
I too have met a lot of new people this way and smoked a shed load fags too!! Lol!!:D

Alexander

30-08-2007, 05:03 AM

My reasoning is still sound, I'm just speculating a bit!

I'm still pissed off for being barred from the smoking section for refusing to leave my drink outside and unattended of course. I doubt there will be an "official" response though, if I push for one I'll probably just get barred outright. Again. :p

fad

31-08-2007, 12:31 PM

Here's an official response!! You're NOT barred from anything or anywhere! Reason we can't have too many people out there is cos of the noise and potentially moaning neighbours. You may recall we are not permitted to allow people to carry alcoholic drinks off the premises and as that courtyard is not a part of the licensed premises if constitutes 'off them' regardless of the fact that it's surrounded by walls. We don't make the rules...just struggle to enforce them against people who will insist on having to be told over and over again not to break them. Logic IS on your side but who ever accused the law of being logical???
I know that rules are a bore, but just to keep you from smoking, we are the law!
(name that mis-quoted 'tune' and win a free sneer next week!!!)

snoww_wwhite

31-08-2007, 12:42 PM

My condolences, I made the same mistake once....for 8 years. But you're right, once you get past the smell and all the body hair and the rudeness and the tendency to collaborate with the Germans

Oh yeah, this is a smoking thread....mmmmmmm, cigarettes. Yum.

eh?

did i miss something?

one moment here, they do not colaborate, they historically kill each other and take away bits of land.

and besides, what the hell is wrong about colaborating with the germans anyway?

how about all the good things we did for you?

show a bit of gratitude englaenders. cos without us you would have not come out tops at not just one but two! world wars.

yah, zats rite, ve let you vin!

:-P

snoww_wwhite

31-08-2007, 12:46 PM

sorry smoking... yah!

smoking is bad mkay

but it does hide the poppers, loo, puke, sweat, [insert everything nasty here] smells that slimelight has to offer.

can we have lemon, coconut or pine flavoured smoke... i mean fog?

Alexander

31-08-2007, 02:21 PM

Here's an official response!! You're NOT barred from anything or anywhere!

Must try harder.... ;)

Reason we can't have too many people out there is cos of the noise and potentially moaning neighbours. You may recall we are not permitted to allow people to carry alcoholic drinks off the premises and as that courtyard is not a part of the licensed premises if constitutes 'off them' regardless of the fact that it's surrounded by walls. We don't make the rules...just struggle to enforce them against people who will insist on having to be told over and over again not to break them. Logic IS on your side but who ever accused the law of being logical???

Yeah, I spoke at length with Loki about this last night and as I understand it. The rules are stupid, but set by the council.

So, you can't drink outside Electrowerkz, due to the level of noise that people drinking outside makes. You can smoke outside Electrowerkz, and hence you can smoke in the courtyard inside Electrowerkz (becuase it counts as being outside). You can't drink in the courtyard, because it's still classified as being outside Electrowerkz, even though it's obviously well inside Electrowerkz.

All of which is still ridiculous. The imposed rules clearly don't make any logical sense and need to be altered in line with other similar establishments. Obviously Electrowerkz is a business and it would be quite easy to demonstrate that the restrictions imposed by the council are unjustified and that either an exception should be made for the area within Electrowerkz, or that Electrowerkz is already subjugated to an unfair exception which should be removed.

If I was involved I would find friends on Islington Council and/or petition the fuck out of them. The Councillors on Islington Council are elected and there solely to help the people that live and work in Islington. Unfortunately, whilst I know of a few Councillors that go to Slimelight, I don't know of any that represent Islington.

31-08-2007, 03:17 PM

Icicle

31-08-2007, 08:40 PM

...stiff upper lip, chaps!
(PS For any foreigners (you know who you are) reading this, 'queuing' is a thing that we English do that involves standing behind the person in front and waiting your fucking turn...you might want to try it sometime...yes French people...I'm looking at YOU!!!)
I'm just foreign, but not French. Thanks for explaining the meaning of word 'queuing'. Would you be kindly arsed to explain how can one smoke with stiff upper lip?

Flux

31-08-2007, 08:54 PM

Would you be kindly arsed to explain how can one smoke with stiff upper lip?

With great care...else you'll keep dropping your ciggie.

dwellems

01-09-2007, 12:53 AM

With great care...else you'll keep dropping your ciggie.

Nah!! Buy compressed fag smoke in A TIN!! How neat is that?... or..
compressed spliffff smoke for the more refined smoker of goooood
tobaco..! Like proper innit:D

snoww_wwhite

01-09-2007, 01:05 AM

All of which is still ridiculous. The imposed rules clearly don't make any logical sense and need to be altered in line with other similar establishments. Obviously Electrowerkz is a business and it would be quite easy to demonstrate that the restrictions imposed by the council are unjustified and that either an exception should be made for the area within Electrowerkz, or that Electrowerkz is already subjugated to an unfair exception which should be removed.

.

it starts making sense if you look at the house prices to the back of electrowerkz and understand the local residents are not normal mortals but demi gods who cannot, must not and shall not suffer for the privilege of living in inner city london!

make sense now?

snoww_wwhite

01-09-2007, 01:10 AM

We need to find an answer. Most smokers and a lot non-smokers are rather pissed off with this stupidity. When you do eventually get out there for a smoke, having queued for 15 mins, the tendancy is to stay out there for a while as you know you're going to have to queue to get out there again. The bouncers then spot this and say, "If you're not smoking, please go in" ... so, we light up another!!! ... just can't win with this system ... crazy I tell ya!

i am a reformed smoker... i hate smoke

i hate all this government bollocks even more.

not sure why there cannot be a smoking area with enough ventilation for however many etc.

not sure as to why all obey. civil disobedience does not seem to happen in the uk does it?

dwellems

01-09-2007, 01:15 AM

i am a reformed smoker... i hate smoke

i hate all this government bollocks even more.

not sure why there cannot be a smoking area with enough ventilation for however many etc.

not sure as to why all obey. civil disobedience does not seem to happen in the uk does it?

Well... They let me in at the airport? How weird is that er?:rolleyes:

Flux

01-09-2007, 01:26 AM

not sure as to why all obey. civil disobedience does not seem to happen in the uk does it?

I've been wondering the same thing tbh. I reckon we're due for a "smoking rebellion" day where everyone everywhere will smoke inside & break the ban. Would be chaos! *insert evil laugh here*

(well, maybe not quite chaos, but it'd be a two finger salute to the law anyway)

snoww_wwhite

01-09-2007, 01:45 AM

Well... They let me in at the airport? How weird is that er?:rolleyes:

you are sooo lucky that i wasnt working there at the time of your immigration ...

dwellems

01-09-2007, 03:12 AM

you are sooo lucky that i wasnt working there at the time of your immigration ...
But, but then all you nice people wouldn't have had the pleasure of meeting the Mighty Dwellem in da flesh then...And all I would remember of England would be rejection...I'll be sad, you would be sad, we will all be sad! Sniff:rolleyes:

Dr_absinthe

01-09-2007, 08:15 AM

I've been wondering the same thing tbh. I reckon we're due for a "smoking rebellion" day where everyone everywhere will smoke inside & break the ban. Would be chaos! *insert evil laugh here*

(well, maybe not quite chaos, but it'd be a two finger salute to the law anyway)

That'd be wicked sweet dude! I'll be first in line with a dirty great cuban :razz: It'd double up as a riot baton in case the police get too testy at all the "law-breakers".

dwellems

01-09-2007, 09:54 AM

That'd be wicked sweet dude! I'll be first in line with a dirty great cuban :razz: It'd double up as a riot baton in case the police get too testy at all the "law-breakers".

Haaay mon thiz iz so pose to be a happy family type of website... So like ay? Why all da roit talk mon??
I must book you in for intensive smooooking rehab, then you see tings a lillte different... Cough***

Plus.... If you can manage to get all slimes members together (Mid WEEK) in day light hours, for a gooood a course like... "smoking rebellion"?!?

Then I'll light your great Cuban for you and even smoke it for you aswell!! Like innit:p

Dr_absinthe

01-09-2007, 10:03 AM

Haaay mon thiz iz so pose to be a happy family type of website... So like ay? Why all da roit talk mon??
I must book you in for intensive smooooking rehab, then you see tings a lillte different... Cough***

Plus.... If you can manage to get all the slimes members together (Mid WEEK) in day light hours for a gooood a course like... "smoking rebellion"?!?

Then I'll light your great Cuban for you smoke it for aswell!!:p

Sorry Dwellems, didn't mean to scare off all the kids:razz:

Still, it would be a sight to behold wouldn't it, a thousand strong goth army marching on a poor, unsuspecting pub in broad daylight, armed with only smokables and lighters... and money for beer too! XD

Oh, and I'll bring along a spare cuban, just for you dude!

Flux

01-09-2007, 01:17 PM

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Alexander

01-09-2007, 02:52 PM

it starts making sense if you look at the house prices to the back of electrowerkz and understand the local residents are not normal mortals but demi gods who cannot, must not and shall not suffer for the privilege of living in inner city london!

make sense now?

No it doesn't.

I understand what you're saying and there's this idea that Islington Council wants rid of Electrowerkz so it can sell off the land to property developers, but supposedly they're supposed to be neutral and not taking money under the table.

If you can prove that drinking in the outside area inside Slimelight causes no additional noise then the council would have to listen. Surely there's enough sound engineers associated with Slimelight that could prove this. Even if they are taking backhanders then they can't turn away factual evidence for fear that you can take it to a higher authority and/or court.

The idea isn't to push them into doing anything, you just have to act like a 5 year old, keep asking questions and hope they get bored before you do because they're mostly hoping the same.

kylon

10-09-2007, 01:53 PM

Does anyone actually live next door to slimes? I thought it was all commercial.

What happened to the area out the front? Can't you just have a smoking area out there?

pseudonym

15-09-2007, 08:59 PM

More dry ice & scented dry ice, PLEASE

Scented fog irritates me (my eyes and nose), I'd much prefer fresh air from outside to be blown in instead of just covering up any smell with perfume.

Byakhiam

15-09-2007, 09:14 PM

Fresh air is the scent of evil.

dwellems

26-09-2007, 08:18 AM

http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/publish/dwellems/smoking2.jpgPublish/smoking2.jpg

BoNk

26-09-2007, 09:23 PM

I can see your irritated over the new smoking law you've got. All I can say is you will get used to it. Some of you will stop smoking, some of you will find new best friends in the smoking area and some of you will just stay the same. The poopsmell will stay for a while, but people will be more aware over their own smells, and fewer people will fart in public.
And last but not least, you won't be as hung over as you usually get for some odd reason.
In the start, the norwegians was like "We will not stand this, we want to smoke with our alcohol!" but then everyone got quiet and nobody has made any riot yet. I don't know if that's because we're a very obediant kind of people or what, but the smoking ban seems to be working out fine here.

Crash_Dark

02-10-2007, 11:06 PM