Membership etc.

[John]

When exactly did Slimes stop enforcing the rules about guest being signed in by members? Personally, I would quite like to see the rules enforced, as once or twice there have been obvious non-members bugging me...

[Blink]

I voted yes on this, which some may find suprising, considering my attitude to a dress-code.
When I started going to Slimes (the night NIN pulled out of the lost weekend), I had heard about slimelight through friends from London, but never been. We found out about the pub where people tended to go pre-slimes (can't remember the name of it, but it is just down the road from Angel tube, and I don't mean the Blue Angel) We looked the part, to a degree, got some members to agree to sign us in, and so it all started. We went through the same ritual for the next few months, until we had some friends who were members, and got our own memberships. I feel that having got my membership, I am now at liberty to wear what I want, as I have served my apprenticeship, and proven my credentials.

I think a dresscode is more descriminating, and this method is a better method of regulating slimes, it becomes, to a degree, self-regulating

[cokephreak]

I think the membership rules should be enforced, and i'm a non-member.

I would even put a vote in to say so, if the voting system worked on my browser

[hiroprotagonist]

hey im new to the forum. i think its interesting that there is a membership rule enforced. im from the states and im living here in london while i go to school. i dont look the part of a goth/cyber goth whatever, and truth be told im not really that into mos tof the music i hear at goth clubs (i.e. ebm, goth rock, heavy metal.) however i am an experimental electronic music producer and absolutely revel in new types of noise, industrial electronic mayhem, and weird glitchyness. so naturally i want to go to slimelight just once to see what its all about.
dress code? i think thats a little funny to enforce a strict dress code at a club for people who, for the most part, are rejected and feel alienated from the rest of the world outside of their club they go to. i hardly feel the need to protect a 'scene' by shunning outsiders who are equally fanatic about the music in the club as anyone else, they just dont want to dress in pvc and wear uncomfortable platforms to look inhumanly tall.
dont get me wrong. i used to. heheh. i just dont have the patience or the inclination to dress up anymore.
ao i guess im just wondering. if i go to slimelight will i have to get someone to sign me in?! am i expected to make friends with someone in line really quick just to get into the club? sounds kind of funny to me. sounds a little too exclusive, or maybe it is. maybe its not the right place to hear good music. maybe its all about showing off how 'scene' you can be and forget the music. just make sure you are seen by everyone else and make sure they 'ooh' and aah' enough to stroke your ego. is that what this club night is about? please tell me im wrong. i desperately want to be.

[SP]

You're wrong! :lol:

Seriously, just show up in black clothes and you'll get in ... no problem.

The music? ... it's varied & IMHO good ... come & check it out!! :wink:

[John]

Jesus, this thread is 1.5 years old…

hiroprotagonist, I agree that we shouldn't really be banning certain types of people from the club, but quite frequently there are people who are WAY past the limit. Like 12 year old girls (what if they OD smallness/inexperience?) for example. I don't have anything against letting under 18's in, but I think people should at least have a couple of years of puberty first :-P

[snoww_wwhite]

Jesus, this thread is 1.5 years old…

hiroprotagonist, I agree that we shouldn't really be banning certain types of people from the club, but quite frequently there are people who are WAY past the limit. Like 12 year old girls (what if they OD smallness/inexperience?) for example. I don't have anything against letting under 18's in, but I think people should at least have a couple of years of puberty first :-P


well some goth girls simply LOOK that young... i doubt that i have ever seen a 12 year old but then again, i tend to not see a lot while i am there, as i am too busy dancing.

i think certian types of peopel should be banned like chavs, i always seem to run into trouble with them. somehow they seem to think they MUST make me smile or laugh or maybe get to know me...

not a fucking chance!

i think if peopel dont want to dress up then fine... just dont expect to pull mateys!... if they are genuinely into the music and fine but some gits there recently were seriously pissing me off...

.. twas about 4 weeks ago when a couple of dressed up townie folks went and while they danced you could see how much out of place they were.. in fact they wanted to look cool by mocking people, i just simply cannot understand what makes people go to clubs where they absolutely not belong, either music nor people wise and feel the need to seriously piss the regulars off...

honestly, i mean i have been to clubs where i wished i had never gone but at least i tried to be friendly and no nuisance to people who regularly want to enjoy themselves at the said club.

:?: :?: :?: :?:

[Guy13]

well some goth girls simply LOOK that young... i doubt that i have ever seen a 12 year old but then again, i tend to not see a lot while i am there, as i am too busy dancing.

I think there has been one occasion when a 12 year old got in after a gig. She was tarted up to look alot older (damn you, make up). :?

To be honest, it appears that there is a worrying trend towards underage girls lying to get into the club. There is a post on the Slimes lj about a 14/15 year old that slept around with males at Slimes and has now gone missing. :?

honestly, i mean i have been to clubs where i wished i had never gone but at least i tried to be friendly and no nuisance to people who regularly want to enjoy themselves at the said club.

You mean like that dire rave in Stratford where every chav and his dog tried to start on me? :evil:

[Crash_Dark]

I think it's pretty much impossible for any club to stop any underage people from getting in, and people can look/act a lot older than they really are. I feel sorry for club owners really - it must be SUCH a headache. Even ID cards etc. are not foolproof.

I think it's odd that chavs want to come into Slimelight, for the very reason Snowwy cites. I guess they come in because it's open all night, and there are lots of people in the kind of clothing they normally only see in their dirty little minds. If they want to come in, fine. But yes, they shouldn't be allowed to ruin other peoples' nights - no-one should.

[John]

" think it's pretty much impossible for any club to stop any underage people from getting in, and people can look/act a lot older than they really are. I feel sorry for club owners really - it must be SUCH a headache. Even ID cards etc. are not foolproof. "

I'm not so concerned about it when it's close enough not to be really, really obvious, but often it just is.

I think townies might end up there because a lot of them see clubs just being clubs, with club music, and heard Slimelight was supposed to be 'wacky', or something.

[Guy13]

I'm not so concerned about it when it's close enough not to be really, really obvious, but often it just is.

If the individual is underage & you unwittingly "pull them" and go home with them, you could find yourself on the sharp end of a rape charge. 8O

I think townies might end up there because a lot of them see clubs just being clubs, with club music, and heard Slimelight was supposed to be 'wacky', or something.

It is, unfortunately, indictative that the dress codes advertised at the entrance aren't strictly adhered to. Entry into an alternative club because it's "wacky" isn't a good enough reason. Door staff should make sure that it isn't a viable reason to get in if it is causing problems with regulars. :?

[snoww_wwhite]

It is, unfortunately, indictative that the dress codes advertised at the entrance aren't strictly adhered to. Entry into an alternative club because it's "wacky" isn't a good enough reason. Door staff should make sure that it isn't a viable reason to get in if it is causing problems with regulars. :?

i think its impossible for door staff to be thought police etc and in theory there is nothing wrong with weirdos getting in and having a good look around but....
... i also think the getting them to go again policy could be a lot more strict... like i am utterly fed up to having to deal with those townie twats all the time....

but unfortunately very often when they cheese me off no bouncer seems to be seen...

and again, i wont take 20 minutes out of my clubbing to go search for a bouncer first and then for the git that bothered me...

[Guy13]

i think its impossible for door staff to be thought police etc and in theory there is nothing wrong with weirdos getting in

Weirdos are fine, it's the chavs and trendies I object to.

[euroboy]

any means to filter the attendance will be flawed in some manner. Moderate enforcement of the dresscode/membership along with good bouncering should mean that there is rare light trouble. I'm sure the original reason for creating such a scheme was because of the close fetish links within the scene which would attract people wishing to perv. Times change and this isn't such a big issue now so the 'rules' are now relaxed.

why would 'chavs' ( i really hate that expression/name and it gets bandyed about way too much now, mind you it seems to be a nom du' jour so i'm sure it will dissapear soon) want to get in the club? - Possibly the perv connection, possibly because it's open all night and they think they can continue getting pissed.

If you think someone is genuinly causing trouble, go tell a bouncer.

I don't see any reason to stop someone who likes the music and wants to have a good night out from entering.

err... forgot where i was going with this. Oh well enjoy.

[snoww_wwhite]

why would 'chavs' ( i really hate that expression/name and it gets bandyed about way too much now, mind you it seems to be a nom du' jour so i'm sure it will dissapear soon) want to get in the club? - Possibly the perv connection, possibly because it's open all night and they think they can continue getting pissed.

If you think someone is genuinly causing trouble, go tell a bouncer.

I don't see any reason to stop someone who likes the music and wants to have a good night out from entering.

chavs, townies that lot i found a nuisance, i rarely if at all get any troublesome moments with goths.

again, i do tell a bouncer if i cannot deal with it in a quick and efficient manner or things get way too much.

also, if they come there to enjoy the music then fine, i was ranting about the guys (and occasional girls) who think its cool to take the piss out of us weirdo, point laugh and take otherwise the piss and those who touch me, grope or dance up to me in the futile attempt to score....

also fake lesbian dances are seriously annoying also, at some point there were very many hippish townie ish people there, which had a seriously bad effect of the music that was played... there is no reason for them to be there if they wanna hear trance and rave music, you can rave and trance yourself throughout london every single night and often day ..

so why are they there? why cause trouble?

[euroboy]

we're both on the same side here. I feel that the bouncering of slimes is very light. Maybe this is because they are very good and you don't feel over protected/threatened, or maybe because they aren't providing quite enough security. I regularly see one or two people who look out of place, but have never seen any trouble as a result, but then I'm a guy you're a girl, we're going to get different nuisance. If the nuisance events are too frequent then something needs to be done.

[Guy13]

also fake lesbian dances are seriously annoying also

They're harmless and not causing any trouble. The idiots who try to grope, laugh at or pester the majority are the real problem.

[Alexander]

dress code? i think thats a little funny to enforce a strict dress code at a club for people who, for the most part, are rejected and feel alienated from the rest of the world outside of their club they go to.

Ooooooooooohhh my god. Where to start?

Don't judge others by your own standards probably sums it up for the most part.

why would 'chavs' ( i really hate that expression/name and it gets bandyed about way too much now, mind you it seems to be a nom du' jour so i'm sure it will dissapear soon) want to get in the club? - Possibly the perv connection, possibly because it's open all night and they think they can continue getting pissed.

Firstlt, I've seen plenty of "chavs" try and get in over the years and mostlly for the reasons you've given. I've seen plenty of them trying to get in over the years, but my hat goes off as I was leaving Slimes early one night and saw this guy dressed head to toe in a white tracksuit, baseball cap and gold chain round his neck and the quote was: "I love goth music me, I love that Nirvana".

Also, for the ultimate sight of extreme alternative chavving - go to Sin City one Friday. There's a group of them; they turn up when it opens, grabs stools, and plonk themselves down next to the cage dancers where they spend the entire night staring wide eyed at the dancers, only taking breaks to go to the bar or for a slash. I've seen a horde of them floating about Electrowerkz when Perversion used to run there too.

As for "fake lesbian dancers"... how do you know they're fake? Turned you down? :wink:

[snoww_wwhite]

we're both on the same side here. I feel that the bouncering of slimes is very light. Maybe this is because they are very good and you don't feel over protected/threatened, or maybe because they aren't providing quite enough security. I regularly see one or two people who look out of place, but have never seen any trouble as a result, but then I'm a guy you're a girl, we're going to get different nuisance. If the nuisance events are too frequent then something needs to be done.

normally a look into their ugly faces and a very stern " fuck off now while you can" resolves the constant bother i seem to get... maybe it cos i dance for hours on my own, so they think iam easy prey...

well, i might be easy but prey... hahahahaha (well only in the right circumstances ;) )

[hiroprotagonist]

sorry i realize the thread is old. i thought since i was so new and there werent 15 pages on the topic i would just jump in there.
its a relief to hear that my expectations were wrong. ill try and stop by sometime to see what its all about.

[bertrand]

Hahem...
The system of membership, is, to my mind, a partof the identity of the club, but I have to confess my own experience :
I'm in London for two month now, and when I came for the first time to the slime, that I have discovered on the web (in looking for a job 8) ), I never meet anybody of more or less cybergoth or something like this before. But luckily, explaining my situation to the people of he entrance, I came in...
Anyway, my english was (an is, as you can see) very bad, so it was very hard to meet new people able to introduce me each saturday. S I take my card the first evening, in asking to peple in the staircase... I get it without difficults : evey body was nice/drunk or the both...
Anyway I'm very shy so I'm always knowing nobody in the Slimelight (more or less) so with stronger legislation about the membership, I will probably going every saturdays to other clubs... the Borderline, maybe ? :cry:
But stronger codes of membership could force new people to socialize more and giving a best ambient to the club (like avoiding the recentproblem of Snowwhite)... So i will not vote finally... :roll:

[bertrand]

Hahem...
The system of membership, is, to my mind, a partof the identity of the club, but I have to confess my own experience :
I'm in London for two month now, and when I came for the first time to the slime, that I have discovered on the web (in looking for a job 8) ), I never meet anybody of more or less cybergoth or something like this before. But luckily, explaining my situation to the people of he entrance, I came in...
Anyway, my english was (an is, as you can see) very bad, so it was very hard to meet new people able to introduce me each saturday. S I take my card the first evening, in asking to peple in the staircase... I get it without difficults : evey body was nice/drunk or the both...
Anyway I'm very shy so I'm always knowing nobody in the Slimelight (more or less) so with stronger legislation about the membership, I will probably going every saturdays to other clubs... the Borderline, maybe ? :cry:
But stronger codes of membership could force new people to socialize more and giving a best ambient to the club (like avoiding the recentproblem of Snowwhite)... So i will not vote finally... :roll:

[bertrand]

oops sory for the flood...